your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I draw the line at digital hand claps. I mean jesus h, just throw a mic in front of your meathooks!

Sort of guilty of this. I have clap samples I recorded in a session a LONG time ago that just sound great so I end up copy/pasting them around new sessions when I need claps. Same with tambourine and shakers - old tracks recorded well and at a slow enough tempo where I can edit them to fit anything within reason.

 

[dominus]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

There are a lot of dudes with absolutely no idea what they're talking about in this thread and it's only 18 posts deep.

The only thing I'm a big stickler about is that I hate working with fake cymbals. They're just so damn hard to mix and get excited about. Programmed shells and real cymbals? Sure. Cymbals+shells tracked separately from kicks? I do this ALL the time. Cymbals and shells entirely separate from eachother but still real? If the drummer can hack it and the style calls for it then it can be ideal. Programmed cymbals just don't sit right to me.

As for everything else... do it all the time and used to do it every day. Tools are tools. Use them well and they'll give you good results.

What did you think about the last The Crown album?

 

[ratherdashing]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

There are a lot of dudes with absolutely no idea what they're talking about in this thread and it's only 18 posts deep.

The only thing I'm a big stickler about is that I hate working with fake cymbals. They're just so damn hard to mix and get excited about. Programmed shells and real cymbals? Sure. Cymbals+shells tracked separately from kicks? I do this ALL the time. Cymbals and shells entirely separate from eachother but still real? If the drummer can hack it and the style calls for it then it can be ideal. Programmed cymbals just don't sit right to me.

As for everything else... do it all the time and used to do it every day. Tools are tools. Use them well and they'll give you good results.

My band's singer is doing a solo recording project, and he's had very good success with V-Drums + real cymbals. Works perfectly for the sound he's going for.

 

[KBliss]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I avoid using musicians whenever possible- too many mistakes.

I prefer rotating fans and windchimes, clapping monkey toys, piano rolls, pachenko machines, & tea kettles.

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I wish I was still working at the printing center. excellent percussion and they keep a bit pretty well until they run out of paper.

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

What did you think about the last The Crown album?

I didn't; I'm not into them.

My band's singer is doing a solo recording project, and he's had very good success with V-Drums + real cymbals. Works perfectly for the sound he's going for.

Yup; this works great most of the time. I like to have real toms if at all possible just because I think they're the hardest to get sounding good/natural via samples but with the v-drums you can rework velocities as much as you want after the fact and you can still blend in the sampled room/OH sounds to keep things cohesive.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I think application has a lot to do with this. When I am working on my own projects, I have unlimited time and can spend as many hours as it takes to get it done the way I think is 'right' for that particular song/album/theme/whatever.

When working on someone else's project, there are expectations that have to be met in all areas: budget, time, sonics, &cet.

However, I don't consider myself 'above' using whatever technology is necessary to achieve the end goal.

 

[everdrone]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I am an intermediate skill level guitarist and advanced level bassist. I do not ever want to tour, so I cannot see spending more than $400 of my own money to 'step into a studio'.

I do foresee eventually getting an electronic drumset though so the drummer can practice at lower volumes, and then I could just press record! that is the cool thing about axefx too, really simple to get decent recordings when in a jam session.

my vocals need massive help with pitch etc so ya I would doctor em up to put on an 'album'. I am thinking of doubling for vocal harmonies too without even singing the second harmony but ya that is sacrelig... I would just release the album for free and try to get people to come to shows.

but ya if I were touring then I would want it to be pro and like the jam band approach where musicians are in the room together recording with no click tracks, and then edit and polish later on.

That EXTREME METAL stuff is so mechanical sounding; no wonder they edit the heck out of it for precision! they remove every little scrape, squeal, and stray noise on your guitar tracks...

 

[Mincer]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I would generally expect that the people who I go into the studio with can sing in tune and play their instruments. I prefer to play in the control room, and it doesn't matter to me if I am playing live with the band or overdubbing. I also don't care if I use a real amp or not- I can find a good tone either way.

 

[everdrone]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I would generally expect that the people who I go into the studio with can sing in tune and play their instruments. I prefer to play in the control room, and it doesn't matter to me if I am playing live with the band or overdubbing. I also don't care if I use a real amp or not- I can find a good tone either way.

I feel this way about my bassguitar playing, maybe I will transition to this thinking too! good to have an open mind

 

[ratherdashing]

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

Re: your 'line in the sand' or attitude on "digital" with recording an album?

I think we need to make the distinction between using technology to help a good artist make a good recording, and using technology as a crutch to make a bad or mediocre artist sound good.

I am 100% in favour of the former, and 100% against the latter.

Like I said, they're just tools - it's how they're used that's important.