Zendrive

Scott_F

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Grabbed one of these to try. I'm quite impressed. Keeping the 5F6A 4x10 Bassman I built at non ear bleeding volumes, this baby really gets a beautiful power tube distortion sound going. This is the best OD I've tried for my ears so far. But this is but another stop on the journey.
 
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Pretty interesting what you can do modifying a Tube Screamer, isn't it? ;)

Did you get the new Lovepedal built one?
 
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Grabbed one of these to try. I'm quite impressed. Keeping the 5F6A 4x10 Bassman I built at non ear bleeding volumes, this baby really gets a beautiful power tube distortion sound going. This is the best OD I've tried for my ears so far. But this is but another stop on the journey.
Nice pedal brother Scott. I use one, I personally would also recommend the Free The Tone SOV, Providence SOV, Van Weeldon Royal OD, Ethos OD, Ethos Fusion, Wiz Pedal D, Menatone Howie and GS Red if you dig the ZD feel and want to pursue that OD style. I use those also and a few other D Style pedals. They are all different, all touch sensitive, cool with different guitars and make for a super fun tonal exploration. I had the GS124 for a month or so but it was too chewy and chubby, even with single coils. The ZD changes feel depending on what guitar/amp you run it through for certain but it will always work in some capacity for me, even stacking. Have fun.

Pretty interesting what you can do modifying a Tube Screamer, isn't it? ;)
I understand what you mean globally and 'internet-ly' but speaking only from my own experience, the ZD has a unique component layout, different clipping diode arrangment, MOSFETS, passive tone control, passive 'cut' control, and certainly a unique feel and sound different than the TS. The only real similarity and any 'claim' to a TS design is that both are op-amp based circuits. I use about 10 D-Style OD's pretty consistently, and I have tried at least 10 more. Some have been direct TS style circuits with a feedback loop (back to back silicone diodes, active tone control) with an added capicitor in the circuit to cut top end via a potentiomenter, but I can always tell immediatey when I plug in and get that hard mid bump grind. Dumbloid and Big Bloom are two TS clones that had no relation to other D-Style pedals. Zendrive, not so much. Alf designed something cool IMO. Cheers, RG
 
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Lovepedal makes great pedals. The new Black Caucus Kalamazoo is on point. I'm still looking for a Les Lius which is essentially a 5e3. Nice score man.


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I haven't. I've only used or owned a couple of his ODs and "amp in a box" pedals. That chorus is a custom run, the two demos I heard were good tho.


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Don't use mine much but my ZD is one of the few pedals to survive my embrace of digital amps. It's an OG model built by Hermida back in the day.
 
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I'm aggressively building a pedal board right now. I think the ZD is a keeper. I've tried a lot of pedals this year and sent a lot of them back.
 
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i paid way too much for my original ZD ($250 used) but i cant imagine it ever NOT being on my board, so i am actually going to rehouse it in a 125B enclosure in order to move the I/O and 9VDC to the back panel instead of the sides

it plays great with both Humbuckers and single coils and even stacks great in front of the SD twintube classic

great pedal
 
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I agree. The zen drive is my favorite pedal. Gets a very specific sound though, i will say. When i run a fuzz face into it through a marshall --- it sounds similar to eric johnson.
 
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I don't know much about the Zen Drive...do any of y'all have a definite sound clip for one? How does it differ from a TS-style?
 
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I don't know much about the Zen Drive...do any of y'all have a definite sound clip for one? How does it differ from a TS-style?

It's very loosely based on the TS, it's been more widely viewed as one of the earlier (and still amazing) Dumble-in-a-box. I know Robben Ford used one for a long time, (I believe it was developed FOR or with him) and a lot of his live lead tone comes more from that than even his Dumbles. I believe he's using it for much of this clip.
 
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The zendrive is a lot smoother than a TS. People say the ZD gets dumble-esq tones. I used to compare it to the TS and would prefer what i could get out of the ZD every time. Now, i realize they both just shine in dif applications.

Heres a clip of my zen drive over an yngwie BT:


And here is a clip of me running a zendrive into my analogman sunface:

 
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Wow, that does sound pretty good. What are the settings on those clips (I have a ZD model in my Fractal to try).
 
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Wow, that does sound pretty good. What are the settings on those clips (I have a ZD model in my Fractal to try).
Not really. The 'Zen Master' is a nice lower-gain drive which I have used a ton over the past couple years, but it has few qualities of a Zen Drive into an amp and will not provide you with any real-life reference. The ZDs most unique feature is the voice control which is supposed to be emulated by using the low-cut on the Fractal (likely because the voice control ..is.. a low-cut).

Still, the default clipping diode on Fractal is 'variable' not op-amp (with 12 other choices selectable, op-amp included) + clip 'shape' + some combination of low-cut, hi cut, bass, mid (para), treble, drive, tone, bias, slew etc.. Even if you don't use all of the settings and you choose op-amp the actual drive function/feel and response is not like the ZD in the least IMO. It's missing the super smooth mids. Zen Master is a great drive on it's own though.

However, to geek a bit further if you do want the sound of say the Zen Drive through a Twin (which is phenomenal) skip the drive block and choose the ODS 100 Ford-1 amp. Input drive at 5 straight up and Overdrive set between 4 and 7...and the rest to taste. Done some amazing pre-session trial tracks with that setting and is spot on of using a ZD and Twin which used to be a live rig of mine. RG
 
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