considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

[DankStar]

trying to figure out if I should go 2 x 12 again. they sound so full compared to a 1 x 12. I'd probably set it on it's end to make it a mini stack type of thing.

this seems like a well-built not-bad deal to me. I'm not versed enough in cabs to tell if it's a screaming deal type thing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2515859...lpid=82&chn=ps
whatcha think?

but, I could envision me building one this summer when I get a bit of time on my hands. I'm not the best with that kind of stuff but if I take my time maybe I could make it nice. I could get some sick tolex color too. aside from the speakers, what do the other materials typically add up to?

I'm not sure I could build it less than this one though, and maybe the speakers aren't that bad:

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/212V

or I could go used, but I know if it doesn't have green or cream backs I'd want to switch the speakers out, and resale value on some junky speakers probably isn't that great.

thanks.

[guitfiddle]

Re: considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

Search out a Peavey MC212. It's a vertical, oversize cab. They have a half removable back, and one 8 ohm, or dual 16 ohm inputs. They came loaded with celestion G12-K85s and sound great.

[Strat o Tele]

Re: considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

I just bought a Ibanez Tube Screamer TS30 2x12 from Sweetwater, $300 shipped!!! It comes loaded with two Celestion Seventy/80's, rated for 160w, & they act. sound great! The cabinet alone is well worth the $300 EASY, very well built & lighter than you would expect form a cab this size! I swapped out the speakers with two Celestion Creambacks, I'm not 100% sure they really needed to be changed but??? Obviously it sounds better but I don't think it sounds almost $400 better??? I've always loved Celestion's Creamback speakers & I had the extra cash to spend on them so I figured why not??? If you decide to go this route you can also change the speakers out with some Greenbacks or anything else your heart desires!!! Before I bought it I was in almost the same boat as you, should I buy, build or get an empty cabinet & load it with whatever speakers I want? I went with the TS30 cab because it act. cost less than a lot of the empty's I found, the shipping KILLS you when dealing with these things, & it was loaded with some "good" speakers!!!! The free shipping was probably the best selling point though? Anyway, just a thought? I def. have absolutely no regrets, even if it still had stock speakers in in is was the right choice for me!!!

[misterwhizzy]

Re: considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

They did need to be changed. From what I've played and heard, Seventy 80s are the worst speakers Celestion makes. I hate to repeat myself here, but I think the only reason they're manufactured is so cab builders can slap a Celestion sticker on their product and charge a higher price.

[DankStar]

Re: considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

I just bought a Ibanez Tube Screamer TS30 2x12 from Sweetwater, $300 shipped!!! It comes loaded with two Celestion Seventy/80's, rated for 160w, & they act. sound great! The cabinet alone is well worth the $300 EASY, very well built & lighter than you would expect form a cab this size! I swapped out the speakers with two Celestion Creambacks, I'm not 100% sure they really needed to be changed but??? Obviously it sounds better but I don't think it sounds almost $400 better??? I've always loved Celestion's Creamback speakers & I had the extra cash to spend on them so I figured why not??? If you decide to go this route you can also change the speakers out with some Greenbacks or anything else your heart desires!!! Before I bought it I was in almost the same boat as you, should I buy, build or get an empty cabinet & load it with whatever speakers I want? I went with the TS30 cab because it act. cost less than a lot of the empty's I found, the shipping KILLS you when dealing with these things, & it was loaded with some "good" speakers!!!! The free shipping was probably the best selling point though? Anyway, just a thought? I def. have absolutely no regrets, even if it still had stock speakers in in is was the right choice for me!!!

nice looking cab. I'm a cheapskate to some extent so I'd probably get the carvin and do a similar thing. save $50. I've had a couple of 70/80s (one by default in a combo and one by choice in a cab to compliment the combo). Not horrible but not much character to speak of.

[allbutromeo]

Re: considering a 2 x 12 cab - build, used, new?

I've seen some used Mesa 2x12 go for around these prices, a couple of Vertical angleds for 350-400 horizontal around 300-350. They're not creambacks, but it might be easier to sell V30's than 70/80s