Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

[GilmourD]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

Assuming "corect" everything elsem..no doubt I would take a Bray any day of the week over a Friedman. No matter if it was EVH tone or anything else. And I'd look at metropolous too. That metroplex is insane.

Bogner Helios/Ecstasy.

PRS HX/DA if you want "unmodded" plexi tones.

Also remember that Eddie's Marshall had no INTERNAL mods. Part of his sound was 6CA7s and (at least I think) long-plate 12AX7s, part was the resistive load, part was the Variac, and part was the Echoplex preamp.

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[JeffB]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

Old old g12ms have alot of breakup that really juices the high end/mids and adds overall distortion. Those speakers are at least as important as his amp was.

[BloodRose]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

Save some money and buy a Landry LS100G3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p_gGQJBH3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97ry-fEZ5c

Never heard of that one before.. NOW, I WANT one!! Wow! Supposed to deliver on the cleans too AND most importantly can deliver the tone at lower levels!! Sweet

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

The Friedman, Bogner, Landry type amps have more preamp gain on tap, so of course they can be run lower in volume, compared to more traditional boutique plexis.

The truth of this subject is that your musical skill in copping VH's songs, solos, and style outweighs anything gearwise.

You'd be better off spending a few years studying VH, using any superstrat into any gainy Marshall amp.

[stratguy23]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

I'm not familiar with Bray amps, but having played a few Friedmans, I can say they're definitely not "one thing". They encompass a few flavors, from vintage Plexi all the way up to high gain.

VH tone really is in the hands. You just need gear that will get you in the neighborhood. I'm not even chasing VH tones, but I found them so ridiculously easy to get with some Marshall-in-a-box pedals - the Bogner La Grange, Carl Martin Plexitone (original), the Friedman BE-OD - that the challenge was no longer interesting. With the La Grange, it was literally the first tone I dialed in out of the box. Five seconds, VH tone... have a laugh with some VH riffs, then move on to trying to find *my* tone.

[ken361]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

Really wanted the La Grange when they were announced I had the red and blue but moved on from pedals and totally happy with my DSL it kills and my new EVH guitar sounds great. Its not a plexi but gets the tones easy and I dont have 2,000 to spend

[mantrasky]

Re: Bray or Friedman for van halen ?

I've owned all the amps mentioned and by far my BE100 covers EVH to Led Zeppelin to about any band using moddded or non modded Marshall. I have the newer BE with the four mini-switch on the front of the amp (gain-structure), it was also modified by Dave (Friedman) for me, all the channels so it does sound different than the production model. Still if you dial in the production model sounds awesome! I also own Bogner 100b/101b/Shiva, CAA PT100, VHT Pittbull, Soldano SLO. All in all the BE100 is an amazing amp.