Getting a more consistent amp sound at different volume levels

[LLL]

Rappers. :P

Speaking of - didn't a whole bunch of people get killed recently at a big concert?

[NegativeEase]

Does anyone do that anymore?

K-POP groups mostly.

[jeremy]

i love a cranked amp tone but i loathe hauling gear so i have a bunch of amps, from 8w to 85w. usually the 20w deluxe suits well enough but should i need other things, i have plenty of toys. ive done the amp->load box->amp->speakers thing and it works great but there is no way im dealing with that on every gig

[GuitarStv]

Speaking of - didn't a whole bunch of people get killed recently at a big concert?

Probably. Couldn't have happened at a rock concert of course . . . people that age are usually pretty careful about damaging their fragile hips and getting home in time for Matlock.

[Securb]

I wanted to be able to get cranked tube amp tone without the neighbors complaining.

No neighbors, no problems.

[GuitarStv]

No neighbors, no problems.

Sharp knives, duct tape, and several rolls of dark plastic should fix the issue. And reduce food costs for a few months.

[GuitarStv]

Where have you been?

Picking out a nice chianti . . .

[pskorz]

If I’m reading the OP correct, are you saying that you are happy with what you are hearing from the amp at both soft and loud volumes, but the recorded playback from the loud isn’t good?

sounds like a different mic placement could solve the problem. And I apologize if I’m talking down like you haven’t tried that already.

[GuitarStv]

If I’m reading the OP correct, are you saying that you are happy with what you are hearing from the amp at both soft and loud volumes, but the recorded playback from the loud isn’t good?

sounds like a different mic placement could solve the problem. And I apologize if I’m talking down like you haven’t tried that already.

Not quite that. I can use the same mic setup at high volumes and get great sounds - but it requires very different EQing for both channels of my amp.

I do most of my writing and practice at home in my basement at low volumes - and am regularly playing around with the amp settings to find different tones. But the tone at low volume doesn't translate into the same tone at higher volume. I'd love a way to be able to keep the sound consistent so that the low volume while practice tones could be replicated exactly at higher volume while playing out without needing to spend the five or ten minutes figuring out where to set the dials to approximate it.

[Demanic]

Not quite that. I can use the same mic setup at high volumes and get great sounds - but it requires very different EQing for both channels of my amp.

I do most of my writing and practice at home in my basement at low volumes - and am regularly playing around with the amp settings to find different tones. But the tone at low volume doesn't translate into the same tone at higher volume. I'd love a way to be able to keep the sound consistent so that the low volume while practice tones could be replicated exactly at higher volume while playing out without needing to spend the five or ten minutes figuring out where to set the dials to approximate it.

You know that this is all related to how humans perceive sound. Are you certain that 15' in front of the cabinet at high volume, that it doesn't sound significantly different from 3' at a low volume? Especially taking room size and environment into consideration.

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[GuitarStv]

You know that this is all related to how humans perceive sound. Are you certain that 15' in front of the cabinet at high volume, that it doesn't sound significantly different from 3' at a low volume? Especially taking room size and environment into consideration.

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No, like I mentioned in the first post this doesn't have to do with the Fletcher-Munson curve. If I record the same way with the same settings at high and low volumes and then play them back with volume equalized they sound very different. The amp sounds different at high volume.

[Ewizard]

My answer..... Two Notes Captor X. Best $600 I have ever spent on my volume and speaker needs problems. I'm not kidding, it is that good, and the price is not horrid. Forget about a speaker cab at all, you can go direct to the PA, your monitor, use a power amp into a speaker cab if you want, whatever, it is the fix you need.

[Demanic]

No, like I mentioned in the first post this doesn't have to do with the Fletcher-Munson curve. If I record the same way with the same settings at high and low volumes and then play them back with volume equalized they sound very different. The amp sounds different at high volume.

Ok, I just wanted to make sure. But one more question, if you don't mind: when you record at different volumes, do you back off the mic several feet when you record loud?

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[eclecticsynergy]

Short of loadbox/IRs/power amp/FR monitors, a good attenuator might be a decent interim solution.
Not perfect, but it should bring your softer vs loud tones a lot closer together than they are now.

[GuitarStv]

Ok, I just wanted to make sure. But one more question, if you don't mind: when you record at different volumes, do you back off the mic several feet when you record loud?

Nope. Backing the mic off the cab (or moving the mic to a different position) changes the sound a whole bunch.