Planning on a build and Schaller is my go-to brand for high quality hardware. Holy crap, have M6 and Minis always been $110+ I thought they used to be ~$60?
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Have Schaller M6 Tuners (non-locking) always been $$$?
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I usually think of $55-65 being the going rate for solid tuners. If they are really that much I would look into the Gotoh variants.-=The Dali
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Schaller hardware has always been pretty expensive outside of the EU. I'll offer a +1 to The Dali's Gotoh recommendation. Their SG38/SG380 tuners are pretty equivalent to Schaller M6s. I'm not familiar with the 510 series tuners, but they have an excellent reputation as well.Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnd that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.
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The German made ones are really expensive and super nice.... from memory the non locker MIG Sperzells use to hover around 60-80 -20years ago -I could be wrong.
I was in Amsterdam and Germany and went into several places that has NOS Schaller stuff for cheap -should have bought a few packs if they are in the 120s now.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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The Schallers are very well made, but also heavy. That might be an issue if you are worried about balance.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by PFDarkside View PostAre Gotoh 510s the “standard” version? I’m speccing out a neck and don’t want to have to ream out holes. Schaller is 10mm and I’m glad I checked prices....Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnd that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.
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Originally posted by PFDarkside View PostWhat would you get on a Jackson or Fender Custom Shop level instrument? (modern style, not vintage)Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnd that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.
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They did improve the design of M6's not too long ago. I don't think they used to be 18:1 ratio before. They now are.
I just dropped a set of locking M6's in my EX-401, and they're definitely an improvement over the Grovers that used to be there.
That being said, standard Gotohs are also an upgrade over Grovers. Not that Grovers are bad, but Gotohs are great.
Gotoh 510's are even better than Schaller, IMO. Especially the 21:1 ratio ones. They're every bit as pricey, though. And the pear-shaped buttons are pretty ugly, IMO. You can get them with different buttons if you order from the right place, though.
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Originally posted by idsnowdog View PostI have a set of Schaller tuners with black plastic bodies and pearl knobs that I have had unused since the late 80's.
Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostThey did improve the design of M6's not too long ago. I don't think they used to be 18:1 ratio before. They now are.
I just dropped a set of locking M6's in my EX-401, and they're definitely an improvement over the Grovers that used to be there.
That being said, standard Gotohs are also an upgrade over Grovers. Not that Grovers are bad, but Gotohs are great.
Gotoh 510's are even better than Schaller, IMO. Especially the 21:1 ratio ones. They're every bit as pricey, though. And the pear-shaped buttons are pretty ugly, IMO. You can get them with different buttons if you order from the right place, though.
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I have a set of Schaller tuners with black plastic bodies and pearl knobs that I have had unused since the late 80's.
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