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  • Originally posted by dystrust View Post

    Really? They might not look as nice as velcro, but they hold the pedals in place while I'm playing, the pedals come off when I want them to, and they don't leave a bunch of sticky sh*t behind if I ever decide to sell something. I've been using zip ties on my pedals for almost 20 years, and ease of zip-tying was another big selling point for the Holeyboard
    I am a fan of zip ties, too. Just bring something to cut them with if you have to troubleshoot quickly at a gig.

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    • Originally posted by Mincer View Post

      I am a fan of zip ties, too. Just bring something to cut them with if you have to troubleshoot quickly at a gig.
      I’m all about zip ties as well.
      I also like those Pedal Links things. I think they are discontinued at this time but I bought a few packages several years ago. They work well.

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      • Originally posted by Mincer View Post

        I am a fan of zip ties, too. Just bring something to cut them with if you have to troubleshoot quickly at a gig.
        I'd use my razor sharp tone!
        Originally posted by Bad City
        He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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        • Originally posted by Aceman View Post

          I'd use my razor sharp tone!



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          • Originally posted by NegativeEase View Post

            Yeah, no argument on that -Trust me, SMD versus, through hole or perf etc etc really amounts to the design to mitgate issues -especially Signal to Noise ratio -not actually effect tones as much. Lots of surface mount designs are quieter than anything you could ever do in your garage -it just depends on the skill of the designer and functional requirements they have to contend with.
            No problems with sound of SMD stuff. It kinda bugs me that they're disposable items though . . . at least with through hole you can sit down and debug/fix/replace stuff when there's a problem.
            Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!

            Originally posted by Douglas Adams
            This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.

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            • Sorry this ended up taking so long, but the obvious effort Ace put into his review required something at least comparable in return...

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Alright. It took me a while to decide how to handle this.

              Here is the official statement: This is a midi controller and a rack. NOT a pedal board so, really does not apply. But you asked for item so you are gonna get it!
              Glad I could entertain you for a while.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Tumnus, GT-500, HBE Fuzz/Oct. that's 7+ flavors of dirt, and all tasty choice pedals!
              Including both channels on the amp I come up with 16 possible combinations of which I actually use 7, so good catch there Ace. I don't use the fuzz, Tumnus, and GT-500 at the same time because I haven't found a use for that sound; it gets mushy in a way that the fuzz into the amp's lead channel doesn't. I likewise don't use the GT-500 with the lead channel because that gets overly saturated and prone to feedback.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Chorus and Phase - and a again, WAZA and the EVH, so 4 styles there too!
              I don't currently have any patches using the phase and chorus at the same time, but it's easy enough to make one and good to have the option I guess.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Cali76 is irreproachable (almost)
              Have a beef with the Cali76? I don't really understand why people get bent out of shape about this processor or that tremolo pedal. This was the most expensive pedal I've ever thrown down for, but I wouldn't have paid up if it didn't deliver the goods.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              I don't recognize the TC unit, but, TC rack processor - recognize!
              The TC rack unit is a G-Major 2, and it's a pretty cool device, especially for $200! Processors like this are dinosaurs in an era where contemporary racks are built around an AxeFx, Helix, or Kemper while pedal boards stock the latest offerings from Strymon along with an Eventide H9 (or two). Ironically going this route ended up saving me a ton of money over a giant pedal board with multiple Strymons and a BOSS ES-8 or RJM Mastermind PBC/10.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Of course, the cool graphic Vox Wah is still cool.
              We just talked about this, but

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              But......


              WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU RUIN THAT EPIC AWESOME BOARD?!?!?!?!?!?!

              First of all, you DID put a board in there - and then you went and put that square ass, elementary school looking, pastel colors, square midi monstrosity on the board. News flash: IT DOESN'T FIT!!!!!! This may shock you, but when your Midi board is that big it is the effing board. That's alike putting a tire on a tire on your car. Seriously man, who does that? Perfectly awesome egos trashed. Now you have crooked alignment, wires showing, and you crowded the Vox, which is now a color eye sore.
              You seem to think that I can't see my own board. I realize it's crooked, but as detailed here, I made the best of a less than ideal situation. I'd love to have a 36" wide board that'd hold my pedals, controller, and expression pedals with a nice case that doesn't weigh a ton, but that doesn't seem to exist. My options were to DIY something which would weigh a ton and not have a case, have a sufficiently wide board custom built which would cost a fortune, or use what I have. What I have is a pretty sweet board that happens to be 31-32" wide, so it'll fit the pedals and controller, but maybe not in the most elegant way. Sorry to have offended your delicate sensibilities.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              And hey - remember all the pedal selection love just a moment ago? Well, lets just effing forget that. The reason you buy those epic @$$ pedals is for the ENVY and PRAISE of other guitar players! Here is a little visual appeal tip: When you have amazing pedals and a cool board put them on it. Why is that you say, Aceman? Because when you put them in a draw in a rack NO ONE CAN EFFING SEE THEM!!!!!!! Might as well have a Behringer FZ300, a Dano Mini chorus and a Mooer orange 90.

              Seriously man, you had probably one of the top 5 boards in this thread, and shot it all to hell with some kind of Pink Floyd/Bob Bradshaw bull$#!t fantasy. Now you have a Kindergarten-crooked setup that hides the only things worth seeing. All because you want to perpetuate the stereotype that white men can't dance because of your privileged guilt (as you secretly stash more than a years income of pedals for most people).
              The only things worth seeing? Are you serious? Most hardcore gear heads (honestly the only people who bother to scope out pedal boards) know what a Mastermind GT is, and it's quite a bit cooler and more exclusive than any of the rather pedestrian pedals I'm hiding. Everyone has some sort of Klone, so that isn't particularly special. OK, so the Cali76 is pretty cool and HBE has a cult following, but outside of that no one really cares. Cool kids do not have a GT-500 on their board as I pointed out in the other post. That leaves us with BOSS and MXR, and I shouldn't need to explain those.

              Speaking of explaining, how about explaining that "privileged guilt" you've somehow diagnosed Dr. AceBob? I'm not aware of any guilt in relation to this board at least, and I wouldn't want to go anywhere else that'd get this thread nuked. OTOH I can assure you that my lack of dancing ability is no stereotype. I may be able to convince longcat to take a break from hiatus and vouch for me, but I'd prefer if everyone just took my word for it.

              If I "secretly stash more than a years income of pedals for most people", you must either live in your car or have a really sh*tty job. I'm "hiding" a total of six pedals, and I'll go with current used prices for sake of simplicity. The most expensive are the Cali76 and UFO at $250 and $200 respectively, followed by the CE-2W and Tumnus at $150 each, with the Phase 90 and GT-500 at $90 each for a total of $930. I really hope you're making at least that much in a week. Maybe you meant income from music, but I doubt many of us make enough from music in a year to finance one pedal, let alone a full board. I have no guilt from my day job funding a hobby.

              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
              Everyone....this is an example of how to go from king of the pedal world to midi malignancy and board-room irrelevance, and spend a crap-ton of money while doing it.

              Damn, I'm sure that midi board works great, but it's about one step away from a black board with sticky notes on it aesthetically.

              This kind of change would suggest serious underlying problems. Are you having trouble in the bedroom, maybe? I'm really feeling the juxtaposition of the epic pedals with this sort of Midi Masturbation and the helter skelter "board on board" arrangement as having some sort of serious psycho-sexual implication in the unconcious.

              And, just to avoid the years of Psycho acoustic analysis:

              This used to be You:

              What the hell happened man?


              In case you're wondering, that was what happened when I showed longcat your remarks about "having trouble in the bedroom, maybe?". I'm confident that absolutely no one wants a detailed answer, but suffice it to say that we're good.

              As far as "what the hell happened", two things. First of all, I had two previous rack systems in the mid to late 2000s, so I knew what was possible in terms of single-button sound changes. Why would that matter you say? It matters because I've also been a vocalist for the majority of bands I've played in. It matters because the music I play isn't wah > boost > delay > amp > done. If I were covering everyone's Sunset Strip favorites where I only needed a boost for solos and a chorus pedal once or twice per set, there's no way I'd build this. I'd probably bring this board to that gig:


              (that's my Lead 12 / backup board, btw)

              The music I prefer to play is kind of psychedelic / shoe gaze with elements of prog thrown in. With this system I can reconfigure any of the sounds I use with one button press.

              The second thing that happened was finding a great deal on the G-Major 2, followed by the GCX, rack, and even the Mastermind. I parted out and sold my two earlier racks because they didn't sound as good as my Marshall 2555, and I couldn't afford to build something that would have at the time. That changed in April of last year, so I decided to build the rack I'd essentially always wanted.
              Originally posted by crusty philtrum
              And that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.

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              • Originally posted by dystrust View Post
                The music I prefer to play is kind of psychedelic
                Ahhhh - now I see. You tore that awesome board apart because you were tripping balls on acid!

                Originally posted by Bad City
                He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                • Originally posted by Aceman View Post

                  Ahhhh - now I see. You tore that awesome board apart because you were tripping balls on acid!

                  No thanks. I once watched a guy that was about 6'4 and built like a truck curl up in a fetal position in the corner during a bad trip and decided to steer clear.

                  I'm not sure I should discuss my preferences, but I'm covered on that front too. Speaking of, if you're up for a beer drop me a line if you're in Minneapolis and I'll let you play through it if you want. I promise it's not that complicated, I'm sure you could figure it out without too much difficulty.
                  Originally posted by crusty philtrum
                  And that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.

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                  • Rev.2.0, time to have the board expert approve or disapprove my changes.

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                    • Originally posted by Securb View Post
                      Rev.2.0, time to have the board expert approve or disapprove my changes.

                      It's late and I'm tired, but I'll burn you a quick one....

                      +1 points just for losing that crappy @$$ bag. Nice solid legit board!
                      +1 BBE Freq Boost. BBE is sooo underated.
                      +3 Liverpool. Unique choice - base sound I assume.
                      +2 for Dracarys (lost one becsause it is a "hot" item)
                      +5 Dirt Clod (you are always styling on the rare earth)
                      +2 on the Flanger Chorus. I'd have arranged the other way, but it doesn't matter. Bonus point is for both swirls in shades of purple.
                      +0 on the CC
                      +0 on the MF delay. Expensive, lacks sex appeal, so -1. But - it does have a drive control, so +1

                      H9 is in style anywhere anytime. I like the delays and fancy pedal on the first row. I on/off delay a lot.
                      +1 on matching connections

                      I like the little round with. Looks like on the board, but could be moved.
                      Nice blue power underneath
                      Pedals in the correct place.
                      No points off or on for the Talk Box - it goes next to the Mic

                      -1 general board dirt
                      -1 for H9/CC/MF not lined up even.


                      13 pts. A lot of win. I'd rock it. The carpet is really busy and takes away from the presentation. Make it 12pts.

                      Gig on, sir, gig on!

                      Originally posted by Bad City
                      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                      • It's late and I'm tired, but I'll burn you a quick one....

                        +1 points just for losing that crappy @$$ bag. Nice solid legit board! - I still have the bag for my Roland GR-33
                        +1 BBE Freq Boost. BBE is sooo underrated. - That is really a sleeper pedal. I always find myself coming back to it.
                        +3 Liverpool. Unique choice - base sound I assume. - That is my gain tone around 75% of the time
                        +2 for Dracarys (lost one becsause it is a "hot" item) - I use this for our more metal forward and shreddy songs.
                        +5 Dirt Clod (you are always styling on the rare earth) - I used this more with my 2nd band to get TS8 and MXR D+ tones
                        +2 on the Flanger Chorus. I'd have arranged the other way, but it doesn't matter. Bonus point is for both swirls in shades of purple. - The CS9 is for our VH stuff, the BF2 is typically used sparingly to swirl up the end of a phrase.
                        +0 on the CC - You are a hater the CC is an awesome delay yes I know everyone has one. There is a reason for that.
                        +0 on the MF delay. Expensive, lacks sex appeal, so -1. But - it does have a drive control, so +1 - The MF is used as a boost, the delay MIX is set very subtle and the DRIVE is pushed forward.

                        H9 is in style anywhere anytime. I like the delays and fancy pedal on the first row. I on/off delay a lot. - H9 is my saving grace, that pedal is my everything especially, rotary, trippy delays, and pitch shift to fatten leads.
                        +1 on matching connections

                        I like the little round with. Looks like on the board, but could be moved. - That controls the CHORUS in the JC - 120 perfect on Purple Rain.
                        Nice blue power underneath - Not by design just a happy accident.
                        Pedals in the correct place.
                        No points off or on for the Talk Box - it goes next to the Mic

                        -1 general board dirt - That is hair from my long lost dog it is not coming off the board ever.
                        -1 for H9/CC/MF not lined up even. - They are placed for maximum contact with the velcro.


                        13 pts. A lot of win. I'd rock it. The carpet is really busy and takes away from the presentation. Make it 12pts. - Why are you so focused on people's carpets? We have a jam room we take what we can get.

                        Gig on, sir, gig on!

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                        • Originally posted by Securb View Post
                          It's late and I'm tired, but I'll burn you a quick one....

                          +1 points just for losing that crappy @$$ bag. Nice solid legit board! - I still have the bag for my Roland GR-33
                          +1 BBE Freq Boost. BBE is sooo underrated. - That is really a sleeper pedal. I always find myself coming back to it.
                          +3 Liverpool. Unique choice - base sound I assume. - That is my gain tone around 75% of the time
                          +2 for Dracarys (lost one becsause it is a "hot" item) - I use this for our more metal forward and shreddy songs.
                          +5 Dirt Clod (you are always styling on the rare earth) - I used this more with my 2nd band to get TS8 and MXR D+ tones
                          +2 on the Flanger Chorus. I'd have arranged the other way, but it doesn't matter. Bonus point is for both swirls in shades of purple. - The CS9 is for our VH stuff, the BF2 is typically used sparingly to swirl up the end of a phrase.
                          +0 on the CC - You are a hater the CC is an awesome delay yes I know everyone has one. There is a reason for that.
                          +0 on the MF delay. Expensive, lacks sex appeal, so -1. But - it does have a drive control, so +1 - The MF is used as a boost, the delay MIX is set very subtle and the DRIVE is pushed forward.

                          H9 is in style anywhere anytime. I like the delays and fancy pedal on the first row. I on/off delay a lot. - H9 is my saving grace, that pedal is my everything especially, rotary, trippy delays, and pitch shift to fatten leads.
                          +1 on matching connections

                          I like the little round with. Looks like on the board, but could be moved. - That controls the CHORUS in the JC - 120 perfect on Purple Rain.
                          Nice blue power underneath - Not by design just a happy accident.
                          Pedals in the correct place.
                          No points off or on for the Talk Box - it goes next to the Mic

                          -1 general board dirt - That is hair from my long lost dog it is not coming off the board ever.
                          -1 for H9/CC/MF not lined up even. - They are placed for maximum contact with the velcro.


                          13 pts. A lot of win. I'd rock it. The carpet is really busy and takes away from the presentation. Make it 12pts. - Why are you so focused on people's carpets? We have a jam room we take what we can get.

                          Gig on, sir, gig on!
                          The MF is a great pedal in my unqualified, unworthy and unrequested opinion.

                          I have considered the dirt clod many times but it’s hard to try or hear one. Could you elaborate a bit more about it?

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                          • Originally posted by Blille View Post

                            The MF is a great pedal in my unqualified, unworthy and unrequested opinion.

                            I have considered the dirt clod many times but it’s hard to try or hear one. Could you elaborate a bit more about it?
                            It sounds like a lot of the classic Distortion/Overdrive pedals that is the beauty of it. They are blowing them out for $99 on Decibel 11's site right now, I strongly suggest grabbing one. Something tells me they are going to be discontinued soon. Below is a review I did on the pedal that should tell you pretty much everything you need to know.

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                            • Originally posted by Securb View Post

                              It sounds like a lot of the classic Distortion/Overdrive pedals that is the beauty of it. They are blowing them out for $99 on Decibel 11's site right now, I strongly suggest grabbing one. Something tells me they are going to be discontinued soon. Below is a review I did on the pedal that should tell you pretty much everything you need to know.

                              http://www.tmrzoo.com/2016/69208/gui...anged-the-game
                              That’s great! Thanks for sharing the review.

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                              • Originally posted by Blille View Post

                                That’s great! Thanks for sharing the review.
                                No problem I am glad you enjoyed it. Here is the link to the website. They dropped the price from $269 to $99. I can not think of a better, more feature-full distortion/overdrive that can be purchased for under $100

                                Decibel Eleven Dirt Clod™ Overdrive Distortion Pedal The Decibel Eleven Dirt Clod guitar effects pedal is a fully analog overdrive distortion pedal featuring 10 memory presets. Whatever music you play, the Dirt Clod provides a wide range of distortion sounds with two styles of clipping in addition to variable mid and high controls. You may …

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