Originally posted by Drak
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If I recall correctly the BBE Green Screamer is the TS808 circuit without the input/output buffers, basically a Son of Screamer circuit. It's a great sound and easy to mod if you're handy with a soldering iron."An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. " - Bukowski
"A banker will take a guitar and play three notes on it. A rock star will take a guitar and throw it across the room. " - David Lee Roth
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That whole line of pedals from BBE was clones of other, popular circuits, AFAIK.
Green Screamer = Tube Screamer, Two-Timer Delay = Boss DM-2 and Mind Bender = Way Huge Blue Hippo (Boss CE-2 clone)/Boss VB-2 Vibrato.
Those are the ones I know for sure. I know that the Soul Vibe is a Uni-Vibe clone but I'm not really sure of the exact circuit that they based it on.
Good pedals nonetheless. They were well built, reasonably priced and sound really, really good.
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So I took a lunch break and ran some serious A/B stuff.
Overall:
Level: Same - GS maybe gets a little louder.
Tone: When dimed, I think the TS is a little brighter, less bass. GS had a little more bottom all the time I think.
Gain: The GS was a little smoother overall, the TS was a little more ratty/raw. GS had maybe a touch more than the TS at the top end. Not much though.
I'd say the mid push in the TS was a touch more than the GS, but hard to tell.
All in all - they are both Tube Screamers. I could flip a coin and be happy with either. I think I may - may - prefer the GS a little more overall, but odds are good I'd grab my TS anyway out of habit. If I go for the GS, its just because its the new thing.Originally posted by Bad City
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I don't know about 808. Never had one/played one. My understanding from duh INtaRrWebZ is that they are essentially the same. But, I'd say so are these.
Heck - pot values could have created the differences.Originally posted by Bad City
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The 808 and 9 are different. I’ve compared them before. There’s a difference in the output section of the 808 vs the 9 that makes it smoother sounding. The rest of the circuit is the same. The GS seems to be that with some low end increase (a simple mod).
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See - I can think of many situations where I'df prefer the TS9 to an 808 if that is the case.
And the other way around too. For harder rocking, I'd want to smooth. For more bluesy, edge of breakup, rooster stuff I want the 9.Originally posted by Bad City
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