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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
cool. guess i'm making another "duncan custom".
OR i may try it with screws in the south coil like a demon.... like a hot ass demon.... a custom/FS hybrid if you will.Last edited by rumblebox; 02-04-2013, 09:35 AM.Regarding any post I've made before 2018, assume I've changed my mind by now.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
No, you can´t.
The allen head screws are "fullsize", meaning that the hole is a constant width from top to bottom. Standard filister screws on the other hand have a MUCH thinner shaft and a thick head. The screw heads will fit more or less perfectly, but the screw will have nothing to thread into unless you
A: drill and tap the baseplate (which obviously requires one that doesn´t have holes in it), or
B: acquire a threaded spacer as is used on most pickups with filister screws. Installing this will require baseplate /bobbin disassembly.
In both cases, the screw won´t be supported between threads and head, but it will still function properly.
This assumes that SD hasn´t started using some wierd filister-style allen screws in the last few years (which I assume is not the case). If you want to be sure in under 5 minutes, simply turn one of the hex screws currently installed all the way out until it loses purchase and falls out, and look at it. If it´s the same diameter from top to bottom, then I´m right (unfortunately for you in this case).Last edited by Zerberus; 02-04-2013, 10:23 AM.Zerberus Industries: Where perfection just isn't good enough.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
Still no big deal. I have plenty of traditional base plates lying around.
EDIT: the poles dont thread into the base plate though. i've had my FS apart a few times to mag-swap, and they just go right through the base plate.Last edited by rumblebox; 02-04-2013, 10:46 AM.Regarding any post I've made before 2018, assume I've changed my mind by now.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
Originally posted by Zerberus View PostNo, you can´t.
The allen head screws are "fullsize", meaning that the hole is a constant width from top to bottom. Standard filister screws on the other hand have a MUCH thinner shaft and a thick head. The screw heads will fit more or less perfectly, but the screw will have nothing to thread into unless you
A: drill and tap the baseplate (which obviously requires one that doesn´t have holes in it), or
B: acquire a threaded spacer as is used on most pickups with filister screws. Installing this will require baseplate /bobbin disassembly.
In both cases, the screw won´t be supported between threads and head, but it will still function properly.
This assumes that SD hasn´t started using some wierd filister-style allen screws in the last few years (which I assume is not the case). If you want to be sure in under 5 minutes, simply turn one of the hex screws currently installed all the way out until it loses purchase and falls out, and look at it. If it´s the same diameter from top to bottom, then I´m right (unfortunately for you in this case).My Blog: thisismyhatnow.blogspot.com
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
Originally posted by youngthrasher9 View PostI'm pretty confident your incorrect. There's been a few guys on here that have taken out the hex screws an put them in the screw sides of different pickups."It keeps you fit - the alcohol, nasty women, sweat on stage, bad food - it's all very good for you." -Bon Scott
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
Originally posted by rumblebox View PostStill no big deal. I have plenty of traditional base plates lying around.
EDIT: the poles dont thread into the base plate though. i've had my FS apart a few times to mag-swap, and they just go right through the base plate.
Otherwise, the filisters will drop down to the baseplate, attract to the magnet, and force you to either fumble around endlessly to remove them, or disassemble the pickup to remove them and install the spacer that the FS does not have but every traditional filister-screwed pickup coil does.
Originally posted by youngthrasher9 View PostI'm pretty confident your incorrect. There's been a few guys on here that have taken out the hex screws an put them in the screw sides of different pickups.
Again, assuming Duncan hasn´t changed the specs in the last few years and my memory of the FS pickup is correct. I`ve "only" owned 4 over the last 20 years and none were destined for my instruments, so others may have a bit more info if they´ve actually taken one apart themelves.
This is partly becasue of Duncan`s tending towards traditional construction. On a vintage pickup, the filister bobbin has a wider hole for the head that quickly goes down to a few mm for the shaft.
It is absolutely no problem to have just one bobbin molded for all 3 pole styles, Filister, Allen, and Big Hex, and would actually be a cost saving factor. But filister bobbinjs would no longer be "correct", and that would piss off so many people so many ways from Sunday that SD is probably pretty smart for NOT implementing that cost cutting measure. Unlike some of their competitors
Again, I COULD be completely wrong here, but to be honest it would surprise me because it contradicts everything I know about vintage PU construction as related to SD policy, as well as my (limited) experience with the PU in question....Last edited by Zerberus; 02-04-2013, 11:10 AM.Zerberus Industries: Where perfection just isn't good enough.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
No god dammit, the hex screws in a FS are exactly the same thread and size as a standard fillister screw, they are just shorter and have hex heads, that's the only difference.
Yes, you can swap them. The attack will be slightly duller and you'll get a bit more low end out of it.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
^^ I stand corrected.
I remember them as being fullsize screws very much similar to the ones that Larry guy from NY uses, which is why it already struck me as odd that they would poke out of the bottom when Rumble posted it....
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
At least you take being corrected like a man.
You can't swap the screws in some Dimarzios (SuperD/2/3, Evo, CL, etc), but some you can (Breed, Liquifire, Fred, PAFpro, etc). Dead giveaway is the screws through the bottom, like Zerb said.
The only Duncan you can't swap is the Invader, but you can use the bigger Dimarzio SuperD type screws in one. Seems like I remember the DMZ screws not being as snug of a fit, I think maybe they're slightly different thread or something.
Duncan sized slugs pop right into the Invader though, and vice-versa, I just made Custom/Invader hybrids recently.
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Re: regular screws in a FS? did a search and can't find the answer
Originally posted by King IzzO))) View Post....
The only Duncan you can't swap is the Invader, but you can use the bigger Dimarzio SuperD type screws in one. Seems like I remember the DMZ screws not being as snug of a fit, I think maybe they're slightly different thread or something.
My (apparently incorrect) memory of the FS physical makeup combined with that experience were the primary information source for my postsLast edited by Zerberus; 02-04-2013, 02:48 PM.Zerberus Industries: Where perfection just isn't good enough.
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