Jb with lower output

[CarlosG]

Hi!
I very like sound JB pickup. I tested different pickups, but JB still sound the best for me.
But JB is too much compressed for me, he hasn't much dynamics.
A2 sound more dynamic - but is muddy.
Do you try half air mod with JB? What effect?

[Mincer]

Re: Jb with lower output

You might try the 59/Custom Hybrid, which has a nice kick to it, but still makes it possible to use dynamics.

[jeremy]

Re: Jb with lower output

the eq curve of the pearly gates is pretty similar to the jb but lower output and more vintagey

[Ascension]

Re: Jb with lower output

You might try the 59/Custom Hybrid, which has a nice kick to it, but still makes it possible to use dynamics.

Agree!! Many will say the Perpetual Burn but I disagree. Have a couple of Hybrids in play and one Perpet along with a couple of JB's. The Hybrid is more harmonically alive than the JB has less output so cleans and opens up better but also hit's like a sledgehammer when you want it to.
The Perpet is a cool pickup but is MUCH more shall we say "polite" than both. The Perpet is a very big sounding articulate smooth and clear pickup and is very cool, however has a much more polite and reserved overall vibe than both the JB and the Hybrid.
A2 with the JB will drop the output and also take out a little of the mid honk it has but also makes the JB softer in feel and looser in the bottom. Have had several mags in JB's.

[David Garner]

Re: Jb with lower output

If I wanted an under wound JB I’d call the Custom Shop. Right now that means a long wait but that’s one way to get exactly what you’re after.

[Clint 55]

Re: Jb with lower output

I just made a JB hybrid with a Seth. Sounds like a JB but open and vintagey. It's great.

[Masta' C]

Re: Jb with lower output

Do you try half air mod with JB? What effect?

This is not a common mod here (it was made popular by DiMarzio players...people here tend to lean toward mag-swaps and hybrids, as you can tell), but half-airing the JB could work! It would open up the sound a bit and reduce the output slightly, just as you want. Another option would be to swap the magnet for an unoriented A5 (aka: UOA5).

[freefrog]

Re: Jb with lower output

Put any vintage voiced HB in parallel with a 780pF capacitor. Associate it with a 300k tone pot. Should give the same kind of mid hump than a JB but with a lower output.

[ehdwuld]

Re: Jb with lower output

I was thinking
add a resistor to ground to send some of the signal
away for the output jack

then I realized
you can just lower your volume knob a bit

maybe?
too easy?

[beaubrummels]

Re: Jb with lower output

A3 in the JB?

[DavidRavenMoon]

Re: Jb with lower output

Reducing the magnet strength will make the tone darker and the dynamics mushy. The DiMarzio air gap is their way to weaken the magnet without going to a weaker magnet.

Putting a ceramic magnet in will give a less compressed tone. Or maybe an alnico 8.


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[Masta' C]

Re: Jb with lower output

A8 for less compressed tone than A5? Yeah, no...a tighter bottom end, more midrange focus and more output, sure, but definitely not less compression/more dynamics.

Sheer magnet strength isn't the only thing to be considered here.

I would try the half-air mod first, honestly. It should lower the output and add in some dynamics without changing the core tone of the JB too drastically. I'm also thinking a half-aired JB with a UOA5 could be a dream for some.

[Clint 55]

Re: Jb with lower output

Hybrid it with a vintage output coil.

[Masta' C]

Re: Jb with lower output

You with your hybrids and double-thick mags...

He can likely get what he wants with a screwdriver, 10 minutes, and no other parts required. Seems the best place to start, especially since he likes the JB in stock form, just needs a tweak.

By the way, CARLOSG, did you try adjusting the height of the pickup and/or pole pieces? Backing the JB away from the strings a bit could also help.

[Clint 55]

Re: Jb with lower output

He said he doesn't like it in its stock form. Tinkering with mags won't open up the wind and give it more vintage response.