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Originally posted by Clint 55 View Post^ You choose to drop off for wiring? I love wiring, do it all the time, and could never pay and wait for it.
I never trim. I leave the slack in case the lead gets damaged over time and I have to trim it. It's not too much hassle to fit everything without tying it off or anything.
I dripped some hot solder on the finish of one of my guitars back in 2015, that left a permanent mark. I now have a few of my old wiring jobs that require some minor cleanup to get a truly noise-free operation. I am so tired of spending time on wiring. To me, with my limited amount of free time, every minute I spend on wiring is another minute I could have spent playing. I am lucky to get about 3 hours of guitar and/or bass in per day as it is right now. If I go back to doing some of my own wiring, it can take me 30 minutes or more leaving me with less time to practice. I just wanna play when I have guitar free time available.
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Theres nothing worse than going into install a pickup and realising you need to add wire because someone decided to cut the excess off. There is no reason to cut the excess off. The point of making something look tidy that you don't look at and isn't made to be looked at, is pointless.
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Well, when people wire tube amps, you don't see the insides, but you want it tidy, with wires cut to length. But I think the inside of a guitar is different. There is usually plenty of room (cut it if there isn't), and it won't make a sonic difference. In other electronic devices, short cable lengths do make a sonic difference.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Snake Aces View Post
Yes sir. I am done with soldering above precious instruments. I can solder anything when it comes to most automotive electronics, but my hands get all shaky when I am working above one of my $2000-plus guitars. Not because I cannot buy another one, but because that specific one is so sentimental to me.
I dripped some hot solder on the finish of one of my guitars back in 2015, that left a permanent mark. I now have a few of my old wiring jobs that require some minor cleanup to get a truly noise-free operation. I am so tired of spending time on wiring. To me, with my limited amount of free time, every minute I spend on wiring is another minute I could have spent playing. I am lucky to get about 3 hours of guitar and/or bass in per day as it is right now. If I go back to doing some of my own wiring, it can take me 30 minutes or more leaving me with less time to practice. I just wanna play when I have guitar free time available.Last edited by Clint 55; 08-04-2020, 12:37 AM.The things that you wanted
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I leave as much as possible on news, but if I need to trim a couple inches to start fresh or get rid of bad areas that someone has melted the coatings on, no big deal.
I always place a folded cloth on the guitar's back right next to the cavity and solder most stuff right there. I take a piece of quilted paper towel and fold it up to place under the wiring inside the cavity also. After I'm done it pulls out easily. Last time I had one tiny little drip on the towel and none on the cloth. I'm getting much cleaner with the solder and neater with my wires over time.
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Originally posted by Snake Aces View PostYes sir. I am done with soldering above precious instruments. I can solder anything when it comes to most automotive electronics, but my hands get all shaky when I am working above one of my $2000-plus guitars. Not because I cannot buy another one, but because that specific one is so sentimental to me.
I dripped some hot solder on the finish of one of my guitars back in 2015, that left a permanent mark. I now have a few of my old wiring jobs that require some minor cleanup to get a truly noise-free operation. I am so tired of spending time on wiring. To me, with my limited amount of free time, every minute I spend on wiring is another minute I could have spent playing. I am lucky to get about 3 hours of guitar and/or bass in per day as it is right now. If I go back to doing some of my own wiring, it can take me 30 minutes or more leaving me with less time to practice. I just wanna play when I have guitar free time available.
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I also don't cut. Only if the pickup was previously used and I need to clean up the wire of excess solder or if the wires appear brittle, In that case I'll snip off enough to get a good connection. That way, I don't have to extend if I move them, Or, if I decide to sell them, there is plenty of lead. (Though I rarely sell pickups.) It's a pita for me to extend them and I then worry about the connections. When I do extend, I used to use electrical tape round the connections, but have started using shrink connectors for more security and a cleaner look. Sadly, Ive always been overkill with solder and or have messy solder points. Its really bad these days since I've developed some shakes..Scares me as my GMA had Parkinsons.
I also try to cover up the area with a rag too as I once touched the edge of the cavity with the side of the iron and made alil burn mark. Speaking of the shakes.... Im prepping some guitars to sell and I have one that was nearly MINT, I was trying to pull a trem spring from claw to block and the pliers slipped and I scratched the back. Dang near cried...Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now.
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Originally posted by Clint 55 View Post
You can mask off ur guitar you know lol. But yeah no, the first time I attempted wiring, I had no idea how the eff I would actually accomplish anything. Since I have mild genetic shakes. I was only changing 1 pup too lol. 4 connections total. I think it took me like 2 hours. You play 3 hours a day? You must be a pro. I started bringing my guitar to work to practice on my lunch. I'm back into it and getting serious about practicing every day. I was cookin on the tune Over the Rainbow today.
The very first time I attempted wiring by myself, it took me forever too. Now I am more efficient, but my hands shake and my brow sweats like a mo-fo when I work on my guitars with my butane soldering iron. I hate wired soldering irons so much. So I switched to butane years ago.
Other than that, I have never considered myself a pro player, that is why I have to practice so much. Then I find myself wishing I knew how to push myself more as a player while practicing. 3 hours a day is nothing. I wish I could practice for 7 or 8 hours a day like I used to be able to. I am a self-taught player. I am a hack. Making a commitment to practicing every single day enables me to at least be good enough to write music and play in some pretty great bands over the years.
With me, my ambition far outweighs my talent. However, for whatever reason, bands I am in are able to experience some pretty special moments because I am very good at making the plans come together behind the scenes. However, I only wish I was a pro when it comes to playing. I am a professional writer but as a musician, I will probably always feel like a hack. That is okay though, when I play music, I do it because it is what I want to do. I have played with people who have an insane amount of talent over the years, I have learned it is all about doing anything I can do to add to the talent around me.
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Originally posted by ArtieToo View Post
Get a Sil-Pad. (Various brand names.) Works great, and relatively cheap. Lay it over the guitar with a hole cut where the cavity is.
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Sometimes the excess can be coiled in the pickup cavity so the electronics cavity doesn't look so messy.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostSometimes the excess can be coiled in the pickup cavity so the electronics cavity doesn't look so messy.Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnd that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.
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Originally posted by dystrust View Post
This is my preferred method. If the cavity is generous enough, I like to wind the extra around the pickup mounting legs.Administrator of the SDUGF
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