Question about STL-3T - tapped Tele Quarter Pound Bridge

[ToneFiddler]

1)Why is the DCR on the Tele version so much higher than the Strat Version? Different wire gauge?

2)Full is about 17k? At what DCR is the Tap?

 

[GuitarDoc]

The tap can be placed anywhere you order it...usually toward the middle of the wind at about 60%.

 

[Lewguitar]

Full is about 17k? At what DCR is the Tap?

17.38K and 8K are the specs I've read.

 

[jeremy]

yes the strat and tele use different wire, and the tap is half way on stock pups. if you want it somewhere else, you need to go custom shop with the prices that come with it. its a cool pup had one in a guitar for a long time

 

[ToneFiddler]

thank you all!
well before i consider the custom shop route i'll try a regular one.

so the strat QP seems to be around 43 AWG and the Tele QP 44 AWG. Same with the lil 59, i guess.
i always thought a tele bridge is the bigger coil so you would think it's the other way around???

Anyhow, i am afraid the ~8k tab with 44 AWG is a lil wimpy, but then, i guess, you can not really compare it to a regular sized magnet single coil...

 

[Lewguitar]

I have a Custom Shop Hot For Tele Tapped. It sounds so good full strength that I literally NEVER use the tapped output.

 

[Mincer]

I have a Custom Shop Hot For Tele Tapped. It sounds so good full strength that I literally NEVER use the tapped output.

This sounds like a cool pickup. I wonder if the tap is half-way on that one, too.

 

[Lewguitar]

This sounds like a cool pickup. I wonder if the tap is half-way on that one, too.

I guess they're calling it the '53 tapped now. Looks like 6.3K and 9.3K. http://customshop.seymourduncan.com/53-tapped-tele/

I have a '54 Esquire. A real one. The pickup is about 6K so the lower output of the '53 Tapped kind of matches that.

 

[ItsaBass]

The Strat one is about 14K, the Tele about 17K. That is pretty normal percentage difference between Strat and Tele pickups.

I would assume the taps are at the halfway point, but I don't know for sure. I believe that the taps are in a good spot IMO, having used them. Tapped sounds like a classic Tele or Strat pickup. I set my guitars up to be normal like that, and treated the switch as a boost. I used the boost (i.e. the full coil) so infrequently that I ended up selling the pickups.

 

[ToneFiddler]

The Strat one is about 14K, the Tele about 17K. That is pretty normal percentage difference between Strat and Tele pickups.

define normal:
the QP strat version DCR is 78,8% of the tele version.
lil59 strat DCR is 66,1% of the tele version.
The Hot for strat DCR is 97,5% of the tele version.
A2P DC is 94,3% ...
ssl2 DCR vs broadcaster DCR is 81,3%

I would assume the taps are at the halfway point, but I don't know for sure. I believe that the taps are in a good spot IMO, having used them. Tapped sounds like a classic Tele or Strat pickup. I set my guitars up to be normal like that, and treated the switch as a boost. I used the boost (i.e. the full coil) so infrequently that I ended up selling the pickups.

I have a Custom Shop Hot For Tele Tapped. It sounds so good full strength that I literally NEVER use the tapped output.

well if i end up only using one of the taps fine by me. but i fear one is too bright and one too fat. I want to add a spin a split.

 

[Lewguitar]

well if i end up only using one of the taps fine by me. but i fear one is too bright and one too fat. I want to add a spin a split.

But this isn't a humbucker with two coils. It only has one. I've never done the spinasplit mod but I thought it only worked with humbuckers, which have two coils.

 

[ErikH]

Here's some info on this from 2008. It be useful. Conclusion, use a switch for the tap.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/for...31424-ssl-5t-dialling-in-a-tapped-single-coil

 

[ToneFiddler]

Here's some info on this from 2008. It be useful. Conclusion, use a switch for the tap.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/for...31424-ssl-5t-dialling-in-a-tapped-single-coil

thanks,
i got the idea from here:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/175-dial-a-tap?318-Dial-a-tap=
trial and error i guess

 

[Artie]

One of the cool things about a tapped pup, is you can do OOP with only one half of a push-pull, or DPDT switch. Which means, you can also do full output in one position, and half-OOP in the other, with one PP.


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[ToneFiddler]

thanks, but i am not a fan of out of phase sounds: i dislike everything with some honk or quack

 

[ItsaBass]

define normal:
the QP strat version DCR is 78,8% of the tele version.
lil59 strat DCR is 66,1% of the tele version.
The Hot for strat DCR is 97,5% of the tele version.
A2P DC is 94,3% ...
ssl2 DCR vs broadcaster DCR is 81,3%





well if i end up only using one of the taps fine by me. but i fear one is too bright and one too fat. I want to add a spin a split.

“Normal” was meant to mean your run of the mill, classic, standard issue Tele and Strat pickups, without an overwound/balanced Strat bridge pickup. The Strat pickup has traditionally been up to about 20 percent lower in DCR than the Tele bridge pickup. Yes, there’s variance all over the map, but the point is that the difference between QP Strat and Tele is not at all strange. Tele bridge pickups are traditionally hotter and darker than Strat “any-position” pickups.

 

[ToneFiddler]

yeah the Broadcaster SSL-1 /SSL-2 example demonstrates this 20% difference.
but the QP is not a vintage pickup as is the hot for strat/tele. since the hot for strat is about the same resistance as the tele version i GUESS SD uses a thinner wire on the lil59 and QP for tele than on the strat versions.
but i don't know.
just afraid the tele QP T is too compressed for my liking. 17k sound very high. didn't like the lil59 T too much (too middy, round and compressed).

 

[jeremy]

the qp isnt as middy as the lil59 and the voicing is fairly different. it isnt a bright pup but most high output pups arent

 

[ToneFiddler]

Thanks,
yes from the duncan soundclips lil59 and QP are quite different. it's sound brighter than the lil59 from those clips and not stuffed or congested which i like.
it's quite different than a hot for tele also which is good, because i don't like those hot pickups which get that fat, middy and smooth.
the QP distortion clips sound very fizzy and harsh though, maybe a touch too much. but then all the pickups dirty clips sound kind of bad. so this pickup sound quite horrible in those clips but it might be just what fits my setup.

i don't want a traditional sound with this guitar.
i want more lowend and not really more mids but beefier mids and some grunt and growl.
the '54 and five two and fender stock tele bridges get really high high mid heavy under gain. not the sound i have in my head at all

 

[jeremy]

the qp has a big bottom end and some growl to it for sure, its a really good rock pup. not what i look for in trying to get a clean sound but its still not bad clean