Sticky for list of Duncans that are the same wind with different magnets?

[Brian L]

To my old ears the 59b in the neck slot sounds the same as a wlh neck with a smooth A5 in it.

[St_Genesius]

The Black Winter looks a little sus to me, too.

[Clint 55]

To my old ears the 59b in the neck slot sounds the same as a wlh neck with a smooth A5 in it.

I'm getting to the point where I have so many pickups that they're all starting to sound the same. But yeah no. The wlh has crunchy mids, the 59 is scooped.

[Brian L]

Obviously your ears are superior

[beaubrummels]

I'm getting to the point where I have so many pickups that they're all starting to sound the same. But yeah no. The wlh has crunchy mids, the 59 is scooped.

WLH with RCA5 (factory) has crunchy mids. With smooth A5, I haven’t tried.

[Clint 55]

Mine came with a regular A5.

[Brian L]

I always felt the wlh neck had a blanket over the amp kind of sound, when I tried it with a smooth A5 it just opened it up. Super clear and more of a paf sound. No woofiness in the bass....same as a 59b in the neck position. It’s a keeper.

[beaubrummels]

Mine came with a regular A5.

Just curious, when did you buy yours? (Wondering if they changed the recipe. There was a custom shop first run, then production. Stock, they should be rough cast, which is part of how they get their texture and complexity and work so well split, parallel and out of phase.)

[Clint 55]

Last year. I've never gotten a Dunan with rc magnets. Wlh, Ant, JBJ.

[GuitarDoc]

To the JB-Distortion question...

I've tried the JB with several different magnets (I believe they were A2, A5, UOA5, A8), and I've tried the Distortion with those same magnets (including the ceramic) in the SAME guitar with nothing else changed. I could never get the two pups to sound the same. The JB always sounded like a JB with that annoying upper mid hump no matter what magnet I tried in it. The Distortion sounded different with different magnets but it NEVER sounded like a JB!

To my ears, the JB and the Dist could not be the same pup.

[DeathMetalRob]

Would I be correct to say that magnets make no difference to resistance?

[AlexR]

^ Correct. Resistance is the measure of what the wire dimension and length are. The magnet will change the pickup tone......and output too if you go from one on the weaker end to say an A8 or Ceramic.
None of the mag swaps from A2 through 5 have done anything other than eq shifts to my ears.....even to A3 which is a weak magnet.

[beaubrummels]

Last year. I've never gotten a Dunan with rc magnets. Wlh, Ant, JBJ.

Did you buy used? Because even the web site has rough cast in the specs:

"The recipe for this pickup set begins with a rough cast alnico 5 magnet, plain enamel wire, and Seymour’s unique winding pattern. The bridge is a vintage-hot 8.78k DC resistance and the neck is similarly beefy at 8.20k. The rough cast magnets add warmth and balance so everything sounds bigger. What is sonically unique about the Whole Lotta Humbucker pickups is the way that they push your amp and add a very slight natural compression and sustain to your sound."

https://www.seymourduncan.com/single-product/whole-lotta-humbucker?pa_strings=6&pa_position=set,set

[PDC]

FWIW - I absolutely love the box-stock WLH. I’ve got one in my northern hard-ash strat with a non-locking trem and it just works everywhere. Surprisingly warm and smooth where one would realistically expect it to be thin and shrill. Lows are soft, but not flubby or mushy. I know pickups are 100% guitar and amp dependent - a pickup that sounds killer in one guitar through a specific amp can sound like ass in another piece of wood plugged into another amp. But the WLH really has my attention. I thought I had found my ‘grail’ pickup when I swapped an unoriented rough A5 in a ‘Custom’ wind - but A/B’d against a box stock WHL - I prefer the WLH.

[Clint 55]

Did you buy used? Because even the web site has rough cast in the specs:

"The recipe for this pickup set begins with a rough cast alnico 5 magnet, plain enamel wire, and Seymour’s unique winding pattern. The bridge is a vintage-hot 8.78k DC resistance and the neck is similarly beefy at 8.20k. The rough cast magnets add warmth and balance so everything sounds bigger. What is sonically unique about the Whole Lotta Humbucker pickups is the way that they push your amp and add a very slight natural compression and sustain to your sound."

https://www.seymourduncan.com/single...sition=set,set

The wlh and ant were new. They lie. I might be forgetting one too. Lew was saying that the majority of his ants came with rcs tho.