New PAF Variant from Dimarzio

[jeremy]

i think that was a fender thing. seth had a spec of 5k turns per bobbin. a p90 had a 10k turn spec, so he split it between the two bobbins and p90s and pafs were machine wound. granted it wasnt auto stop so someone started and stopped the machine which is part of the reason things are all over the place

[beaubrummels]

Sounds like the only niche these are filling is double cream PAF. So DMz is trying to take down lawsuits by decreasing the need for other winder's PAFs in double cream; now you can get them from DMz

[Juanhanglo]

These look really nice!

Now, just imagine this: if they sound really good, and are only a c note a piece, the boutique guys are gonna take a sizeable hit.

I've always wondered what'd happen if dimarzio just bit the bullet and made a period/spec correct PAF. Now we get to find out!

I'd give em a shot.

I hope they offer them in all the colors and covers though.

So, to recap, dimazio owns PAF, double cream, AND they're now making period correct stuff.

Can anyone say "public enemy number one"? LOL

[beaubrummels]

There isn't just one "PAF" sound, so DMz hasn't suddenly taken all the other winders out. They just reduced some of the angst of getting a PAF type in double cream. Also, by way of example, IME DMz' previous PAF pickups were more unclear/muddier/undetailed than any one of Duncan's various equivalent PAF types that I tried in the same guitar.

[Rex_Rocker]

I like the PAF 36th Anni and the PAF Pro. Dimarzio has a tendency to make non-traditional low output pickups and just call them PAF-whatever. The ones I tried sound good, tho.

[Chistopher]

Also what's the deal on the A2? I thought DMZ hated A2 so much they invented a patent.

[Aceman]

I just took a set of 57's out of my Les Paul. Were these DiMarzio's?

[freefrog]

I like the PAF 36th Anni and the PAF Pro. Dimarzio has a tendency to make non-traditional low output pickups and just call them PAF-whatever. The ones I tried sound good, tho.

Yep, they call them "PAF" without dots because it's a DiMarzio trademark... and the absence of dots in this acronym allows to apply it to PU's whose design / materials / construction are not quite the same than in Gibson "P.A.F.'s" (like the 36th, with its added slugs between magnetic poles while there's no keeper bar in this model)...

In some way, it's more honest that what some other brands and winders do by putting "P.A.F." stickers under humbuckers whose specs are not "vintage correct" either. :-P

That said, I still find these "new" DM double cream less attractive than my old double cream SH1 or than the "true colors" shining through Duncan Seth Lover's ( https://guitar.com/guides/essential-...ut-seth-lover/ )... YMMV, of course. :-)

[Rex_Rocker]

Also what's the deal on the A2? I thought DMZ hated A2 so much they invented a patent.

They're hypocrites, TBH. I guess they realized "whatever sells". They've been using A2 on single coils for a while and calling them "Area" whatever, I think, argumenting they have less string pull, so that'w why they use them.

[donaldr]

...they invented a patent.

How can you invent a patent? I don't think it's possible.
You invent something and you get a patent to stop others from copying, manufacturing, selling or importing your invention without your permission.

[larryguitar]

Anyone notice that those are NOT 'cream' colored, but 'relic white'? Look like cream to me, so I wonder if this is a response to the lawsuit?


Larry

[GuitarStv]

How can you invent a patent? I don't think it's possible.
You invent something and you get a patent to stop others from copying, manufacturing, selling or importing your invention without your permission.

No. Cream coloured humbuckers copied from what earlier Gibson pickups with the cover removed looked like was not an invention. But when Dimarizio patented cream coloured humbuckers? That was the entirety of Dimarzio's 'invention'.

[RanchManSandy]

No. Cream coloured humbuckers copied from what earlier Gibson pickups with the cover removed looked like was not an invention. But when Dimarizio patented cream coloured humbuckers? That was the entirety of Dimarzio's 'invention'.

Trademarked a color, not "patented" it.

[beaubrummels]

No. Cream coloured humbuckers copied from what earlier Gibson pickups with the cover removed looked like was not an invention. But when Dimarizio patented cream coloured humbuckers? That was the entirety of Dimarzio's 'invention'.

Not an invention. They took a particular color combined with a dual humbucker bobbin appearance as a trademark, which a company can legitimately can do.

[GuitarStv]

Not an invention. They took a particular color combined with a dual humbucker bobbin appearance as a trademark, which a company can legitimately can do.

Not an invention. And they copied what Gibson had already done and called it on their own. Not legitimate.