Pickups for progressive/math metal

[BrandonR]

I don't really understand what the confusion is about, I know that there's a lot of subdivisions of subdivisions in music but that's because there's a lot of different types of music.

It's like saying you want something green, vs you want something that's a matte lime green. It's not "inventing new words because you want to feel you discovered something" it's just using more words for something more specific.

[Securb]

I think it's because musicians tend to be very egotistical and want to feel that they have invented something new.

I think if you listened to some Math Metal you would quickly realize that these bands do not fit into traditional metal categories. They use a lot of odd timings but are not prog-rock or prog-metal by any stretch of the imagination. They also have a more hardcore punk influence than a lot of mainstream metal styles.

The OP was definitely giving a definitive description of what he was trying to achieve, seeing some Math Metal bands have a very eclectic range of guitar tones going from clear jazzy chords to extremely downturned rhythms. I think his description of his sonic goal was spot on and helped people understand the direction he desired to obtain with his sound and make accurate recommendations.

[strat dude]

I think if you listened to some Math Metal you would quickly realize that these bands do not fit into traditional metal categories. They use a lot of odd timings but are not prog-rock or prog-metal by any stretch of the imagination. They also have a more hardcore punk influence than a lot of mainstream metal styles.

The OP was definitely giving a definitive description of what he was trying to achieve, seeing some Math Metal bands have a very eclectic range of guitar tones going from clear jazzy chords to extremely downturned rhythms. I think his description of his sonic goal was spot on and helped people understand the direction he desired to obtain with his sound and make accurate recommendations.

I hear that, and (or but) metal and what is even considered “metal” has changed and evolved continuously ever since 1970. I mean Sammy Hagar sang the song Heavy Metal in the movie Heavy Metal and most of the music in that movie now might not even be considered rock much less metal. People can call what they do whatever they want, I’m just glad there is good guitar music being played today.

[Securb]

Most of the music in that movie now might not even be considered rock much less metal.

I still consider Don Felder heavy metal

[GuitarDoc]

And maybe the Eagles' "Witchy Woman" should be given a different genre name than their "Peaceful Easy Feeling" since they are so different!

Come on. We don't need to give some music a different genre just because it has more treble or bass or distortion or a different time signature than another piece of music. Some basic categories are fine, but let's not go overboard.

[RanchManSandy]

by and large the genre-naming phenomenon isn't about bands trying to plant a flag on "new" territory, it's just a way of describing a sound.

I've never seen it put a better way. A+ would read again

[RanchManSandy]

And maybe the Eagles' "Witchy Woman" should be given a different genre name than their "Peaceful Easy Feeling" since they are so different!

Come on. We don't need to give some music a different genre just because it has more treble or bass or distortion or a different time signature than another piece of music. Some basic categories are fine, but let's not go overboard.

Then don't listen to it.

[GuitarDoc]

Then don't listen to it.

Don't be so immature.
It's not about listening to different types of music or even enjoying them, it's about all the silly needless names.

[Securb]

it's about all the silly needless names.

It is actually about helping someone find a pickup for Math Metal and it would probably be more productive if we got back on subject.

[RanchManSandy]

Don't be so immature.
It's not about listening to different types of music or even enjoying them, it's about all the silly needless names.

'needless' is debatable and shows a desire to be willfully uninformed.

Like, i don't really listen to black metal much, but I do like a lot of blackened death metal bands. I know what that means. Is 3 words too many for you to digest?

[RanchManSandy]

It is actually about helping someone find a pickup for Math Metal and it would probably be more productive if we got back on subject.

Pegasus or Nazgul + Sentient, imo

Or parallel axis distortion + the parallel axis stack single (two very underrated models)

[Chistopher]

I still consider Don Felder heavy metal

Shout out to Deathproof, gotta be one of the worst movies ever made.

[GuitarDoc]

It is actually about helping someone find a pickup for Math Metal and it would probably be more productive if we got back on subject.

That's right but I can't help him if I don't know what "math metal" is. We just got a bit sidetracked with the terminology issue.

[Rex_Rocker]

To add to the debate... when I hear "Math Metal", I either think of None-era Meshuggah or Dillinger Escape Plan. Not sure which one is "Math Metal"? Meshuggah is certainly more "Metal".

Or maybe Blotted Science.