new song . first draft. rock project!

[ItsaBass]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

I'm thinking it must be a keyboard. Sounds like a synthesized bagpipe, in the beginning.

Listening again, I think the bass and drums are waaaay buried by the guitar. Drums and bass up front and guitar a bit more buried would suit the song well IMO.

It is cool; it just has a muddy mix at this point.

[Chickenwings]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

synthesized bagpipe! lol....its guitar!....but at least i know what you mean now - ill look at that part again....its played with an ebow, but only is in a couple of parts of the tune.

When i get back from Melbourne ill re mix from the ground up with no reverbs, then add just a touch here and there as innerdream suggested and see how it goes. Might even re-do all the guitar parts a few times with different settings and axes and see how they sit.
Thanks everyone for all your input. It definitely helps - and i appreciate everyone saying exactly what they think cos that kind of advice is really useful in making it sound better. Mebbe when the album comes out i can add the SDUGF in the list of credits!

[SamusChief]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

This is really cool! I needed something fresh to listen to! Thanks for this.

I knew something good would come out of clicking the clips section today!

[wahwah]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

I think the basic mismatch that is happening is because the vocalist's sound is too clean and thin to compete with a heavy guitar track. It's like what you would get if you were to put a cabaret jazz singer in front of a rock band. She doesn't have the authority in her tone to stand in front of the track. Adding reverb to her vocal only weakens it in that context. The only chance she will have is to move everything out of her way in the stereo field and have her dry in the middle. This is one case where using a cheap dynamic on the main vocal may be better than a condenser.

This will take some work in mixdown because the mismatch is at a fundamental level. Maybe by moving the guitar track out of the centre and possibly pushing it back with pre-delay on the reverb you can get it to seem like she has the power to dominate the band. In this mix the guitar is eating her alive.

Keep us posted!





Cheers...................................... wahwah

[Chickenwings]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

wah - you are right on....she IS a cabaret singer! lol
its odd tho cos she is loud as hell.
thanks for the ideas....ill get back to working on parts and mixing on the 29th when i get back from Melbourne. If i can make it work okay at home using my laptop, then hopefully when it gets remixed by the pro engineer it will sound better still. Ill keep you posted...and its be great to hear what you guys think about subsequent mixing attempts.
Merry Christmas all!

[gilaltom3]

Re: new song . first draft. rock project!

I dig the song and I think everything will sit a lot better once it gets a better mix. The cabaret voice, however, will have to grow on me. Idk why I've never loved that sound.