Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

If you're talking about the last chord in the song, the dissonant one this sounds right to me.

[ItsaBass]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

The last chord on the record definitely has a G and an E in it, and definitely does not have a D# in it, or a low F. If it does have an A, it is a low A, which that chord chart shows muted. (I cannot tell if it is A or Bb, as it seems to be moving around a bit on the record.)

Play the chord in that chart along with the record. The only thing that sounds right in that chord is the high E string.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

I don't have the record. I was just playing it to the YouTube video, I thought it sounded right.

[ItsaBass]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

I think parts of it are right and parts are not. FWIW, I don't know if my chord chart is right either!

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

So you guys don't think he is using standard tuning live? Ugh, not sure how to pull this off...

[ItsaBass]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

Ugh, not sure how to pull this off...

If you have another guitarist to play the A#'s:

080X7X
350XXX
3502XX (the most difficult of the lot)

If you need to include the A#'s in one guitar part:

080876
0807X6

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

Thanks man!

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

ITSABASS, are all those chords that I should be playing or can I pick and choose? Remember it is only the two chords I couldn;t figure out, the one at the intro and the one before the solo.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

Maybe this will help you. By the way it's the same chord, intro, before the solo and ending.

[ItsaBass]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

Yep, same chord in all three places. Those things that I wrote down are just various options I could think of for playing "The Chord." I think the second to last or the last ones are the easiest and sound the best if you are the only guitarist.

And just because I wrote them doesn't mean they are correct. They are just the best that I can figure.

As for tunings, I don't know which ones he uses on which songs, but I do know that he makes use of non-standard tunings. Also, the album part you are learning definitely has multiple tracks (I think it is at least three), and maybe a light use of a chorus and/or vibrato pedal as well.

I am not the world's biggest STP fan, but IMO Dean DeLeo is one of the best musicians and most interesting guitarists to get into the mainstream as a member of a band in the past 30 years. I don't idolize him, but I highly respect his musicianship. He is a hard guy to copy, especially if you are trying to play the studio recordings with only one guitar part. His brother is a great bassist too.

P.S. I wrote them high E to low E, but I am sure you figured that out.

P.P.S. I thought of another one, and it is for the laziest of the lazy: 080XXX. Same notes as 350XXX, but a different inversion that only requires one fretted note. It'd work fine if you had someone else to play those A#'s.

[Inferno]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

I'm not sure of the accuracy of this, but Rocksmith says that that chord as an "Em7 (b5)/Bb" played 670780. It also has a second guitar adding 01xxxx (written out low to high e both times).

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

If you have another guitarist to play the A#'s:

080X7X
350XXX
3502XX (the most difficult of the lot)

If you need to include the A#'s in one guitar part:

080876
0807X6

No offense, I tried these chords and none of them even sound close to the recording. I am stuck.
This sounds closest and it works in the band setting...although not an exact match of what he is doing - x03330

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

E---0
B---8
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6
OR
E---0
B---5
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6

[ItsaBass]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

No offense, I tried these chords and none of them even sound close to the recording. I am stuck.
This sounds closest and it works in the band setting...although not an exact match of what he is doing - x03330

They all sound fine to me. It's not offensive, just makes me think you are listening to something other than what I am listening to. Are you listening on a microscopic laptop speaker? If so, put some headphones on and crank them up. As I said, you need three guitarists to pull it off exactly like the record anyhow, so any single chord that attempts to do it will not sound ideal (but will certainly get the job done).

What I think is happening is that the notes I wrote are a decent replication of the notes on the record, but you are not able to play them the same way as they are played on the record all in one strum. On the record, they are split into at least three parts, with the note or two on each track played so that they can ring and feed back. Playing everything in one strum will sound very different. Personally, if things were ideal, I'd split that chord with another guitarist and/or keyboardist if I really wanted to bother to nail it. More than likely in the real world, I'd just come up with something that sounds good enough without needing to perfectly replicate the record.

All I know for sure is that I can hear a high E, two octaves of G, and two octaves of A# in it. There may be other notes that I cannot discern, but those five are definitely there, and that basically amounts to an incomplete diminished chord, which could be said to be based on E, G, or A#. Melodically speaking, E can be ruled out, so it's a G or A# diminished which is incomplete. If in doubt about what has been suggested here, I say just look up a A# diminished or a G diminished in one of those cheesy chord books and use whatever stock fingering they give you (but delete any C#s in the chord). It'll do the job for 99.9 percent of your audience.

Good luck. You'll figure something out if you don't like what has been offered. And if you don't, it's not a big deal anyhow. It's just a few chords in a short song, which all basically amount to dissonant noise anyhow.

P.S. You're not playing along with that You Tube version that has been raised half a step, are you?

[papersoul]

Re: Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

On a good stereo...this sounds correct:
E---0
B---8
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6