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Great article. For those wanting more check out his Q&A's on Gearslutz (https://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-mike-shipley/)TOUQUE ROCK...EH???? I AM CANADIAN
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Though both Def Leppard albums have a distinct style, for sure, it's really the songwriting that made those albums. It sounds like it was just an exhaustive walk-fest working on those albums and they are the very definition of 'over produced'.Why don't you take your little Cobra Kais and get outta here?!
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Even today, when I hear a tune from Hysteria or Pyromania on the radio or computer I am amazed at how good the production sounds. I chalk it all up to Mutt, of course - but I can imagine the torture of the band members working on an album for over a year.aka Chris Pile, formerly of Six String Fever
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Originally posted by TwilightOdyssey View PostThough both Def Leppard albums have a distinct style, for sure, it's really the songwriting that made those albums. It sounds like it was just an exhaustive walk-fest working on those albums and they are the very definition of 'over produced'.TOUQUE ROCK...EH???? I AM CANADIAN
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I don't know if those albums ever sounded good to me, but they certainly are unique. Everyone has their methods, I guess. It is amazing they got the record companies to go along with it. It would never happen today.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostI don't know if those albums ever sounded good to me, but they certainly are unique. Everyone has their methods, I guess. It is amazing they got the record companies to go along with it. It would never happen today.TOUQUE ROCK...EH???? I AM CANADIAN
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I find the term "commercial distortion" interesting:
Because of the nature of the way that band played, and the inversions they used, it was very hard to get the right – what Mutt had in his head as – "commercial distortion." We had hundreds of amps and cabinets in that studio; from AC/DC amps, to little combos, to big stacks. Everything you could think of. We spent weeks and weeks trying to get a commercial sound for those inversions, rather than the [raw] crunchy, distorted sound. I'm pretty sure we ended up with just a little Marshall combo amp after we'd tried everything. It's funny, because after a while you get so fatigued that nothing ever sounds good enough. But we had to start recording at a certain point, so we found a good combination that worked, and used condenser mics, [Neumann U] 87s and [Neumann U] 67s, on the amplifiers.
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If the fresh-out-of-the-box tapes were shedding oxide after so many passes of overdubs and mixes, imagine the beating the tape machines were getting.
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Reading this article, I find it interesting from a 'we have endless resources, let's see what we can do' point of view. It is like a kitchen sink analogy.
However, any great producer, working with a great band, and great songs doesn't need 100 overdubs of detuned handclaps to make a hit. Yes, it is unique. But it also seems like they could have done it for less than $14 million.Administrator of the SDUGF
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One thing I think the Def Leppard albums fail to achieve is timelessness. They sound *really* of their time. Contrast that with AC/DC.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostOne thing I think the Def Leppard albums fail to achieve is timelessness. They sound *really* of their time. Contrast that with AC/DC.
Just like AC/DC's Back In Black (Mutt Lange again; previously).
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