guitarist6614
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Over the past days of researching for a noise gate I havent really begun to think of which one to buy. Digitech, Boss , Rocktron all make their own noisegate. Has anyone got any favorites?
#1 Noise Gate
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frankfalbo
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Re: #1 Noise Gate
Unfortunately it depends on what you want to do. The Hush style units try to smooth out the transition between noise reduction and full volume playing. A traditional noise gate is more of an "on/off" machine. Below a certain threshold it just shuts you off. So the key would be in the triggering. I use both. I have rack gear with programmable Hush circuitry that I use when I'm doing a more legato type of thing. I set it so mildly that it's really not affecting the signal at all when I'm playing or when my notes are trailing off. But I use a hard gate sometimes to for crunch chording and ripping solos. And it's extremely important where you place them in the signal. I like them as the last thing in the chain before time based effects. It's a waste of time to put them after delays and reverbs. But it's equally harmful to put them somewhere before preamp conditioning (like EQ or overdrive)
So favorites would be Hush units, if you had to have just one, but I've found the standalone Hush units can change the tone a little. My Hush circuits are integrated into some other piece of Rocktron rack gear, so I think they integrate better.
For years I've been thinking that someone should make a noise gate where the first thing it plugged into was from the guitar. That would be the sensor. Then the gate unit could be plugged in anywhere else in the signal path, and would gate the signal at that point, but based off of the sound of the pure, unadulterated guitar input.
Unfortunately it depends on what you want to do. The Hush style units try to smooth out the transition between noise reduction and full volume playing. A traditional noise gate is more of an "on/off" machine. Below a certain threshold it just shuts you off. So the key would be in the triggering. I use both. I have rack gear with programmable Hush circuitry that I use when I'm doing a more legato type of thing. I set it so mildly that it's really not affecting the signal at all when I'm playing or when my notes are trailing off. But I use a hard gate sometimes to for crunch chording and ripping solos. And it's extremely important where you place them in the signal. I like them as the last thing in the chain before time based effects. It's a waste of time to put them after delays and reverbs. But it's equally harmful to put them somewhere before preamp conditioning (like EQ or overdrive)
So favorites would be Hush units, if you had to have just one, but I've found the standalone Hush units can change the tone a little. My Hush circuits are integrated into some other piece of Rocktron rack gear, so I think they integrate better.
For years I've been thinking that someone should make a noise gate where the first thing it plugged into was from the guitar. That would be the sensor. Then the gate unit could be plugged in anywhere else in the signal path, and would gate the signal at that point, but based off of the sound of the pure, unadulterated guitar input.
guitarist6614
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Re: #1 Noise Gate
Ok thanks for your help that helps me better on my decision. Will basicly every noise gate change my tone or are there some out there that dont?
Ok thanks for your help that helps me better on my decision. Will basicly every noise gate change my tone or are there some out there that dont?
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: #1 Noise Gate
HUSH the pedal is absolute garbage, don't even try it. I don't recommend the MXR noise gate either. I've never tried the Digitech, but I wouldn't expect much.
I've had good experiences with the Boss NS-2 and I'm not much of a Boss fan. The ISP Decimator is my #1 pick (especially the rackmount Pro if you have the room for it). I use the pedal 24-7, it never gets turned off (ut really helps for the noise issue with clubs + p90s + a high gain amp).
HUSH the pedal is absolute garbage, don't even try it. I don't recommend the MXR noise gate either. I've never tried the Digitech, but I wouldn't expect much.
I've had good experiences with the Boss NS-2 and I'm not much of a Boss fan. The ISP Decimator is my #1 pick (especially the rackmount Pro if you have the room for it). I use the pedal 24-7, it never gets turned off (ut really helps for the noise issue with clubs + p90s + a high gain amp).
Jackson Distortion
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Re: #1 Noise Gate
MXR Smart Gate. It may not be a #1 tho, lol.
MXR Smart Gate. It may not be a #1 tho, lol.
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: #1 Noise Gate
So to save precious space in this temple of gear truth. How many ISP Decimator user are here now ??? more reviews please. I've read that it kills the cleans if you switch from high gain to clean live. I think I am about to pull the triger ...
So to save precious space in this temple of gear truth. How many ISP Decimator user are here now ??? more reviews please. I've read that it kills the cleans if you switch from high gain to clean live. I think I am about to pull the triger ...
davedvdy
New member
Re: #1 Noise Gate
Wait for the Hum Debugger by Electro Harmonix! It's not supposed to be a noise gate, it's supposed to really kill the noise completely from the signal w/o any negative effects on the tone.
I am very interested to find out if it kills 60 cyle hum from Strats also!
http://www.tunnelvisionmusic.com/Electro-Harmonix-Hum-Debugger-Pedal-p-16166.html
Wait for the Hum Debugger by Electro Harmonix! It's not supposed to be a noise gate, it's supposed to really kill the noise completely from the signal w/o any negative effects on the tone.
I am very interested to find out if it kills 60 cyle hum from Strats also!
http://www.tunnelvisionmusic.com/Electro-Harmonix-Hum-Debugger-Pedal-p-16166.html
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: #1 Noise Gate
Noisegates....bleh...talk about mucking up ones setup!
Noisegates....bleh...talk about mucking up ones setup!
bloodswords
New member
Re: #1 Noise Gate
+1 for the ISP Decimator...
+1 for the ISP Decimator...
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: #1 Noise Gate
Normally, I'd agree with you on that one, but I've found differently with one pedal. Just about every noise gate/noise suppressor on the market today affects your tone in some subtle way; it goes from very subtle (Boss NS-2 w/o the Loop engaged) to wrecking havock (HUSH the pedal). The only completely transparent pedal I've found is the ISP Decimator. I've been using one for over a year now and it's the only noise suppressor I feel comfortable having on my board because all of my dynamics of my signal are left intact: delays ring out, palm mutes come through clearly, light picking won't give it bad oscillation, notes sustain just as well as they normally do etc.
Normally, I'd agree with you on that one, but I've found differently with one pedal. Just about every noise gate/noise suppressor on the market today affects your tone in some subtle way; it goes from very subtle (Boss NS-2 w/o the Loop engaged) to wrecking havock (HUSH the pedal). The only completely transparent pedal I've found is the ISP Decimator. I've been using one for over a year now and it's the only noise suppressor I feel comfortable having on my board because all of my dynamics of my signal are left intact: delays ring out, palm mutes come through clearly, light picking won't give it bad oscillation, notes sustain just as well as they normally do etc.
XSSIVE
OCDologist
Re: #1 Noise Gate
In the past i used an NS2 and it sucked tone if you weren't real careful. i now use an isp decimator pedal and it's great. much easier to dial in and find the perfect point where there is no noticable tone loss. i use it last in line before the amp (not in the loop) and it keeps my long line of pedals 100% quiet.
-Mike
In the past i used an NS2 and it sucked tone if you weren't real careful. i now use an isp decimator pedal and it's great. much easier to dial in and find the perfect point where there is no noticable tone loss. i use it last in line before the amp (not in the loop) and it keeps my long line of pedals 100% quiet.
-Mike
ParameterMan
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Re: #1 Noise Gate
Check out the ISP Decimator ProRack G. Unfortunately, it's a one-space rack unit, but it does that very thing. I want one someday when I'm rich. The other thing that could be used is any good pro audio gate with a sidechain input.
Check out the ISP Decimator ProRack G. Unfortunately, it's a one-space rack unit, but it does that very thing. I want one someday when I'm rich. The other thing that could be used is any good pro audio gate with a sidechain input.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: #1 Noise Gate
That's a freaking great idea. The main pedal would be in the loop, but a sensor that monitored guitar signal and defeated the gate whenever sound came through put between the guitar and amp.
It would have to be made so the sensor didn't suck tone, though. Some kind of true-bypass thing, though I don't think the same principles apply to something like this.
That's a freaking great idea. The main pedal would be in the loop, but a sensor that monitored guitar signal and defeated the gate whenever sound came through put between the guitar and amp.
It would have to be made so the sensor didn't suck tone, though. Some kind of true-bypass thing, though I don't think the same principles apply to something like this.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: #1 Noise Gate
The Decimator doesn't have an Attack control, which is essential IMO.
The only noise gates I trust are the simple ones that simply kill the output when the level goes below the threshold. The attack control sets how quickly the output is cut, which helps smooth things out.
Any other type of noise gate will compromise tone. There is no way around it.
Before buying a noise gate, I would recommend taking measures to remove noise from your existing rig, if at all possible.
The Decimator doesn't have an Attack control, which is essential IMO.
The only noise gates I trust are the simple ones that simply kill the output when the level goes below the threshold. The attack control sets how quickly the output is cut, which helps smooth things out.
Any other type of noise gate will compromise tone. There is no way around it.
Before buying a noise gate, I would recommend taking measures to remove noise from your existing rig, if at all possible.
Mr Wolf
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Re: #1 Noise Gate
Jeff
+ 1 here. In my old metal band a while ago i used a Boss NS-2 and it did the job very well when set right (which isn't rocket science). You can get one for a good price. Since those older days though i am in a hard rock band and i don't use as much gain so i no longer have it in my rig. If i ever need it again i will use it without hesitation
Jeff
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: #1 Noise Gate
I rather live with noise than adding anything like that!!
Even our own noise thingy I dislike alot...and that one was designed by a frigging genious!
Lol
I rather live with noise than adding anything like that!!
Even our own noise thingy I dislike alot...and that one was designed by a frigging genious!
Lol
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: #1 Noise Gate
Sometimes hum is a part of the whole sound!!
I think this hunt for totally silent rigs is killing the sound in the end!!
Sometimes hum is a part of the whole sound!!
I think this hunt for totally silent rigs is killing the sound in the end!!
