13k with Alnico 8

[redsparkleLP]

saw someone playing an Arcane Inc The 13 pickup. It has an Alnico 8 and 13k. What are my alternatives from Seymor or other brands. I am looking of a rock and more modern sound that cleans un the bottom end of my les paul's burst bucker. Thanks

 

[Mincer]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

I believe the closest might be a Alternative 8.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

The Alt 8 is a little higher than 13k (about 17k), but the Custom at about 14k with an A8 mag would be very close and would do what he wants. The C8 is a really great versatile pup that can do just about anything. Does modern and cleans up very well with just the guitar's vol.

 

[Mincer]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Yeah, I had originally wrote out the Custom 8, but that does require a magnet swap. I know not everyone is comfortable with that (though it is easy).

 

[MikeS]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

If you're willing to pay custom shop prices, there's always the Crazy 8. https://customshop.seymourduncan.com/crazy-8/

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Perpetual Burn is right around 13K - that one might be an option as well.

 

[redsparkleLP]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Thanks for the ideas. I may have just latched onto these specs randomly. I like the way the Arcane Inc 13 is described as both vintage and modern. I am really looking for a pickup to play hardcore with a little metal. My les paul burst buckers may be too loose or ?muddy in the bass. I currently play a 5150 iii. Any other suggestions are welcome.

 

[Gtrjunior]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Yeah, I think a Custom 8 is what you’re looking for.

 

[Metalman_666]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

I'll add to the several votes for Custom 8, if you are willing to try out the magnet swap yourself. You won't be disappointed.

I got both my JB/C8 hybrid and Custom 8 from the trading post here so I never had to swap myself [emoji1] :beerchug:

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[ToneFiddler]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

the arcane description says something about custom polepieces and maybe they use metal part with different carbon content.
COuld be just marketing talk but we don't know that.
So they might sound quite different only based on this.
and how different a wind (or pickup) can sound with just the same DCR reading is demonstrated by many PAF clones

that said, regarding Duncan products the old SH-7 or now SH-6n might even be a better choice than the C8. never tried a A8 in it though, which demands thinner spacers.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

The A8 magnet is exactly the same size as an A5, why would it "demand thinner spacers"?

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

The A8 magnet is exactly the same size as an A5, why would it "demand thinner spacers"?

The SH-6N (formerly known as the SH-7) uses a double thick ceramic, so switching to any regular size bar mag will require thinner spacers.

I put a double thick A8 in an SH-6N but it's still in neck position. A8 sweetened the highs a bit and I think may have made it feel a hair looser, though that might just be my perception. Still pretty big modern sound and feel though.

I also have an old SH-7 Seymourizer which now sports a double thick A5. Haven't decided yet which guitar to try it in so I can't comment on the tone. In bridge position with its original ceramic the pickup was bright, tight and aggressive.

 

[loversmoon]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

I have a custom with an A8 in my esp and love it.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

The SH-6N (formerly known as the SH-7) uses a double thick ceramic, so switching to any regular size bar mag will require thinner spacers.

I put a double thick A8 in an SH-6N but it's still in neck position. A8 sweetened the highs a bit and I think may have made it feel a hair looser, though that might just be my perception. Still pretty big modern sound and feel though.

I also have an old SH-7 Seymourizer which now sports a double thick A5. Haven't decided yet which guitar to try it in so I can't comment on the tone. In bridge position with its original ceramic the pickup was bright, tight and aggressive.

Oh, I thought you were talking about putting an A8 in a Custom. Why would you even suggest getting a SH-6n and putting an A8 with thinner spacers (or a double thick A8 would be a better solution) when he can get the sound he's after with a C8 which is better sounding and more versatile in the first place?

 

[GrilledChickenSalad]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

saw someone playing an Arcane Inc The 13 pickup. It has an Alnico 8 and 13k. What are my alternatives from Seymor or other brands.

OG El Diablo from the Custom Shop

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Oh, I thought you were talking about putting an A8 in a Custom. Why would you even suggest getting a SH-6n and putting an A8 with thinner spacers (or a double thick A8 would be a better solution) when he can get the sound he's after with a C8 which is better sounding and more versatile in the first place?

Actually it was ToneFiddler who suggested the Distortion neck - I was posting about the spacers, then went on to comment about swapping doublethick mags into that wind because I have a couple.

I'd recommend a Custom8 over the Distortion too.

But I still think A8 in a 13K Perpetual Burn would give him the clean low end he's looking for, as well as being the closest Duncan equivalent to the Arcane he mentioned.

 

[Ascension]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Dimarzio Satchur8 fits the bill 12.75K A 8. I'm a big A8 fan but have not tried this pickup. I have run the Alt 8, bought 2 crazy 8's from the first forum run and also run Custom 8's and Jb 8's. So far my favorite A8 pickup is the Alt 8. It's a LOT clearer and more defined than you may think and although it is very hot doesn't respond like most super hot pickups do.
Clip live running my 93 KOA Carvin DC 127 with a ALT 8 bridge Sentient set 3 way and split switches and my little Boogie Subway Rocket. Here I never touch my amp settings this is just using the switches and guitar volume plus touch to get the different tones and gain levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iQEwpz_ow&list=PL4Xz--pZhwstAAtIrpvg09Cshb16ANtW5&index=97&t=0s
Here is another clip same rig this time almost all on the Alt in full bucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qBzG7qrLs&list=PL4Xz--pZhwstAAtIrpvg09Cshb16ANtW5&index=94

 

[Gtrjunior]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

Dimarzio Satchur8 fits the bill 12.75K A 8. I'm a big A8 fan but have not tried this pickup. I have run the Alt 8, bought 2 crazy 8's from the first forum run and also run Custom 8's and Jb 8's. So far my favorite A8 pickup is the Alt 8. It's a LOT clearer and more defined than you may think and although it is very hot doesn't respond like most super hot pickups do.
Clip live running my 93 KOA Carvin DC 127 with a ALT 8 bridge Sentient set 3 way and split switches and my little Boogie Subway Rocket. Here I never touch my amp settings this is just using the switches and guitar volume plus touch to get the different tones and gain levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iQEwpz_ow&list=PL4Xz--pZhwstAAtIrpvg09Cshb16ANtW5&index=97&t=0s
Here is another clip same rig this time almost all on the Alt in full bucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qBzG7qrLs&list=PL4Xz--pZhwstAAtIrpvg09Cshb16ANtW5&index=94

What’s the difference between a Crazy 8 and a Custom 8?

 

[bigcupholder]

Re: 13k with Alnico 8

If you're looking for something that has a bit of vintage character but is tight enough to do metal, I'd just go for the regular custom (sh5). The custom 8 (swapping in an alnico 8 magnet) could be a backup plan if you want more mids, but if you're playing a 5150 you should already have plenty of mids on tap.

IMO you'll get more helpful advice if you focus on what you want to do rather than try to stick to some specs.

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