3 pickups with a mini toggle

[tjbackstage]

Hi. I am trying to connect 3 pickups to a mini toggle switch (that's all I have room for in the small cavity I have to work with). I just want the switch to select which of the 3 pickups is being sent to the output of the switch, nothing fancy or weird. What kind of mini toggle, specifically, do I need? (DPDT, or something else?) And is there considered to be a best brand to go with quality-wise? Also, how would I wire it? (Linking off to a wiring diagram or posting one would be really helpful.) Thank you!

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Hi. I am trying to connect 3 pickups to a mini toggle switch (that's all I have room for in the small cavity I have to work with). I just want the switch to select which of the 3 pickups is being sent to the output of the switch, nothing fancy or weird. What kind of mini toggle, specifically, do I need? (DPDT, or something else?) And is there considered to be a best brand to go with quality-wise? Also, how would I wire it? (Linking off to a wiring diagram or posting one would be really helpful.) Thank you!

might not be possible with a DPDT.. dont think it is.. a 3PDT is what you would need i would think..i might draw up something later if someone else doesnt.. i have a real bad headache...

one question.. you just want to select an individual pickup w/o the option to combine them ?

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Yes, it is possible to wire up a dpdt on-on-on as an ABC switch.

I used one to switch between the output of a bridge HB wired in series, an overwound single, or the output of a standard 5-way blade switch with the neck single coil connected at the tap, a middle single coil, and the bridge split to a single coil.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Yes, it is possible to wire up a dpdt on-on-on as an ABC switch.

really dont think it is.. need another pole IMO

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

It isn't a matter of opinion.

I know it's possible because that's exactly the way I use it.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

I stand corrected.. Couldnt visualize in my head , so I had to draw one up real quick.. sorry.. no color on this one as I was just trying to be quick in getting it to ya

im uploading it now.. give me a few

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

That's not right.

If the pins in your drawing are...

1 2
3 4
5 6

...and the operation is (4-2,3-1), (4-6,3-1), (4-6,3-5), then...

A goes to 2
Out goes to 4
6 goes to 3
B goes to 1 and
C goes to 5

Apologies in advance if it seems upside down or otherwise awkward.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

That's not right.

If the pins in your drawing are:

1 2
3 4
5 6

And the operation is (4-2,3-1),(4-6,3-1),(4-6,3-5) then...

A goes to 2
Out goes to 4
6 goes to 3
B goes to 1 and
C goes to 5

uh .. my wirings are rarely wrong.. there are different ways to do wirings dude.. seriously.. ill look at it again and trace it out

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

The OP didn't specify that he wanted ABC, of course.

As it currently stands, your drawing gives either
A, B, B+C
or
A, A+C, B+C
...depending on the operation of the switch.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

The OP didn't specify that he wanted ABC, of course.

Your drawing as it currently stands gives A, B, B+C.

are you on drugs.. with an on/on/on.. no it will not

my god dude ive just mapped it out WITH a switch diagram in front on me


edit>>

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Maybe if you provide a definition for "your" switch (like I did earlier), 'cause the on-on-on switches I know aren't going to work in that drawing of yours.

EDIT:
...oh good, you finally provided a drawing of the switch, though I see it only shows one type of on-on-on. I provided the outcome of your wiring using both types of on-on-on.

You better go back and check, but I suggest taking a deep breath first.

Here is a diagram with both types:
http://cdo.seymourduncan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Switches2_Diag_4.gif

My earlier post was for type 2, but upside down. You gotta give me a break, 'cause I did this all in my head before referencing any drawing. I'm surprised I got it right the first time, to be honest.



You'll see it eventually.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Maybe if you provide a definition for "your" switch (like I did earlier), 'cause the on-on-on switches I know aren't going to work in that drawing.

thats the only way i know an on/on/on switch does work.. unless you can post something to the contrary.. its a given its an on/on/on as he has 3 pups

then post a pic of the switches you used..

seriously dude.. headache here..

im well known for my custom wirings man.. no BS here and ive never had one person that ive helped said one of my drawings doesnt work.. THIS doesnt mean that someone else posting a different solution wont work as well.. different thought processes.. different solutions.. wirings are like programming problems to me and thats how I approach them

 

[gregory]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

...and your drawing provides either
A, B, B+C
or
A, A+C, B+C
...depending on whether you have a type I or type II switch.

Now, maybe that's what the OP wants.

I provided a solution for ABC, but it might not be what he wants.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

Maybe if you provide a definition for "your" switch (like I did earlier), 'cause the on-on-on switches I know aren't going to work in that drawing of yours.

EDIT:
...oh good, you finally provided a drawing of the switch, though I see it only shows one type of on-on-on. I provided the outcome of your wiring using both types of on-on-on.

You better go back and check, but I suggest taking a deep breath first.

Here is a diagram with both types:
http://cdo.seymourduncan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Switches2_Diag_4.gif

My earlier post was for type 2, but upside down. You gotta give me a break, 'cause I did this all in my head before referencing any drawing. I'm surprised I got it right the first time, to be honest.



You'll see it eventually.

dude whats with your condescending f*cked up lil attitude.. not trying to compete with you..

ill admit when im wrong but i be damn if ill do so just to "keep the pecece"

I for one could not do this in my head.. as I said.. headache.. Thought id map it out because I could be wrong as I initially thought it would not work..was wrong in that

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

...and your drawing provides either
A, B, B+C
or
A, A+C, B+C
...depending on whether you have a type I or type II switch.

Now, maybe that's what the OP wants.

I provided a solution for ABC, but it might not be what he wants.

this conversation is over.. my way does work with individual pups only.. Dont say **** is wrong because you cant read a wiring diagram or understand a switch.. as I keep telling you.. multiple solutions to a problem

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

after looking at it... with that middle jumper i am wrong.. that still doesnt excuse your ****ed up attitude dude.. damn

 

[Brandenburg]

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easier to if your draw something out

 

[Liko]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

uh .. my wirings are rarely wrong.. there are different ways to do wirings dude.. seriously.. ill look at it again and trace it out

Well it's one way to select between 3 pickups, but I think gregory is inferring (as I did) that the OP wants an A-B-C switch operation, no combinations. Your setup will select A - B - B+C with a standard Type 1, A - A+C - B+C with a Type 1a (inverted; right side switches first), or A - A+B+C - B+C with a Type 2.

I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I don't think A-B-C selection can be done with a single DPDT. There may be a scheme where you essentially wire the pickups in series and then use the DPDT to creatively change the hot and ground pickoff points in the chain, but I'd have to trace it which will have to wait.

With a DP3T slide switch, with or without a common terminal, it's pretty easy to do this, but those switches have quite a bit larger footprint than a mini toggle.

 

[Liko]

Re: 3 pickups with a mini toggle

easier to if your draw something out

I stand corrected; that will do it with a Type 1 DPDT. The order's off though; the current setup will select C-A-B from top to bottom position. Easily corrected; move A's lead to top right, B's to top left and C's to bottom left.