Hot Octopus
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Anyone ever so a magnet swap for a 59'? If so, what mag's and how did it sound?
59' magnet swaps
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Franknfilms
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
Bridge or neck position? I put a A4 in my 59bridge...which is in the neck. Confused yet?
59s are very big on the treble and the bass, not so much on the mids. The A4 roughcast evened out the eq so it's not as bright or boomy, but also added an interesting gritty flavor to it as well which sounds great clean to mid gain, a little fuzzy with high gain. I like it but don't love it, my next move will either be an A2 or UOA5, I'm leaning towards the A2 just because I happen to have one laying around.
Bridge or neck position? I put a A4 in my 59bridge...which is in the neck. Confused yet?
59s are very big on the treble and the bass, not so much on the mids. The A4 roughcast evened out the eq so it's not as bright or boomy, but also added an interesting gritty flavor to it as well which sounds great clean to mid gain, a little fuzzy with high gain. I like it but don't love it, my next move will either be an A2 or UOA5, I'm leaning towards the A2 just because I happen to have one laying around.
marcello252
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
Try the A2 but I bet you'll love the UOA5, best of both worlds.
Try the A2 but I bet you'll love the UOA5, best of both worlds.
Hot Octopus
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
I'm thinking about the neck. I have an extra 8 laying around. And I'm wondering how that would sound?
Bridge or neck position? I put a A4 in my 59bridge...which is in the neck. Confused yet?
I'm thinking about the neck. I have an extra 8 laying around. And I'm wondering how that would sound?
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: 59' magnet swaps
I don't think A8's work in the neck slot, especially in a PAF; too dark and powerful, and prone to mud. Generally in a '59N, players would use an A4 or A2 to soften the low-end and add mids for a fuller sound.
In the bridge, an UOA5 is ideal to add wamrth and midrange; it has the rich dynamics of an A2 without such a rounded high-end and the loose low-end.
I don't think A8's work in the neck slot, especially in a PAF; too dark and powerful, and prone to mud. Generally in a '59N, players would use an A4 or A2 to soften the low-end and add mids for a fuller sound.
In the bridge, an UOA5 is ideal to add wamrth and midrange; it has the rich dynamics of an A2 without such a rounded high-end and the loose low-end.
IanBallard
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
Eventually when I get a "real" neck pickup, I'll get my TB-59 in the bridge of something and it might adorn an A8. I like the idea of having a PAF with a stronger, more "wide range" magnet. A '59 with mids is like a dream come true!
Eventually when I get a "real" neck pickup, I'll get my TB-59 in the bridge of something and it might adorn an A8. I like the idea of having a PAF with a stronger, more "wide range" magnet. A '59 with mids is like a dream come true!
pzaxtl
Gibletsologist
Reload in 5
Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: 59' magnet swaps
59N+A2=win
At least for me. Made it bigger, rounder, no mud
With my CC in the bridge I can swap right to the neck and have a very complimentary sound. Step on my delay and solo away.
59N+A2=win
At least for me. Made it bigger, rounder, no mud
With my CC in the bridge I can swap right to the neck and have a very complimentary sound. Step on my delay and solo away.
copperheadroads
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
The first thing i find with any Vintage style pickup with lower wound , With an A5 magnet ,its pretty much too boomy ,IMO an A2 will make it sound more like a paf ,smoother more vintage sounding
The first thing i find with any Vintage style pickup with lower wound , With an A5 magnet ,its pretty much too boomy ,IMO an A2 will make it sound more like a paf ,smoother more vintage sounding
Desert
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
Check out the Ibby Super 70s. It's pretty much the same deal!
I was wondering that, as well, as I didn't like the end result of my C8. Too much power, too much mid.
Check out the Ibby Super 70s. It's pretty much the same deal!
I was wondering that, as well, as I didn't like the end result of my C8. Too much power, too much mid.
Re: 59' magnet swaps
Desert,
It definitely has polarity; from what others have said, it has to do with the grain in the casting process and has nothing to do with north-south orientation..........
Desert,
It definitely has polarity; from what others have said, it has to do with the grain in the casting process and has nothing to do with north-south orientation..........
J
Jessie's ghost
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Re: 59' magnet swaps
I've put A2's in neck-position '59s in two guitars (Jackson SL2HT, Epiphone LP-100), and I really liked the results.
I think the stock '59n is great at a particular sound, but when I wanted to do something else with it, it sounded buzzy and one-notish. There weren't the harmonics that I really wanted out of a neck-position PAF.
The A2 did exactly what I wanted. The midrange was more prominent, the treble had more clarity, and the whole pickup had the chimey quality that I was looking for. For the first time, I could get a decent pass at a Slash neck pickup sound from the '59.
I've put A2's in neck-position '59s in two guitars (Jackson SL2HT, Epiphone LP-100), and I really liked the results.
I think the stock '59n is great at a particular sound, but when I wanted to do something else with it, it sounded buzzy and one-notish. There weren't the harmonics that I really wanted out of a neck-position PAF.
The A2 did exactly what I wanted. The midrange was more prominent, the treble had more clarity, and the whole pickup had the chimey quality that I was looking for. For the first time, I could get a decent pass at a Slash neck pickup sound from the '59.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: 59' magnet swaps
+1 for the Ceramic.
I thought roughcast and unoriented were different from each other? UO would seem to me to mean non-polarized (or maybe polarized only as one or the other, not both?)
+1 for the Ceramic.
I thought roughcast and unoriented were different from each other? UO would seem to me to mean non-polarized (or maybe polarized only as one or the other, not both?)
Re: 59' magnet swaps
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the term "unoriented" refers to the structural/microscopic nature of the metal.
In a typical A5 mag (for example) the individual molecules are all lined up in the same magnetic direction, so to speak ("oriented" in the same direction). This gives the mag its classic high-end bite and low-end thump.
In a UOA5, the molecules are more scatter arranged ("unoriented" to each other). This gives a less pronounced/pointed/prickly high end (= smoother), and a softer low-end. This "scatterring" also fills in more mids in all mid frequencies.
BOTH mags are still North and South oriented.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the term "unoriented" refers to the structural/microscopic nature of the metal.
In a typical A5 mag (for example) the individual molecules are all lined up in the same magnetic direction, so to speak ("oriented" in the same direction). This gives the mag its classic high-end bite and low-end thump.
In a UOA5, the molecules are more scatter arranged ("unoriented" to each other). This gives a less pronounced/pointed/prickly high end (= smoother), and a softer low-end. This "scatterring" also fills in more mids in all mid frequencies.
BOTH mags are still North and South oriented.
