59 Neck vs Screamin Demon Advise

[Buzzin_Cousin]

Wondering if you Seymour Duncan experts can advise me on a 59 in the neck vs. a Screaming demon Bridge pickup in the neck position. I have an old Korean LP that I just installed an MSSC harness in it, and I used to really dig cleans on the Screamin deamon bridge pick up in the neck with the stock electronics but now that it's installed it sounds good but not as good as it used to. I don't think it's the harness but now I'm wondering about that classic 59 neck and JB bridge combo as I have a JBJ in the bridge right now and it sounds really good. Do you think a 59 would be an upgrade over the screaming demon bridge in the neck?
And if so, in what way?

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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[Mincer]

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I don't know if I would call it an upgrade- it just sounds different. You get bigger lows and a more scooped sound out of the 59- it is more open, and really works well in many LPs, where mids might be more heavy. I have used a Demon in superstrats' neck positions, but never on an LP- not that it can't work, or that it isn't good. But for LPs, I like the 59's eq profile better.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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I don't know if I would call it an upgrade- it just sounds different. You get bigger lows and a more scooped sound out of the 59- it is more open, and really works well in many LPs, where mids might be more heavy. I have used a Demon in superstrats' neck positions, but never on an LP- not that it can't work, or that it isn't good. But for LPs, I like the 59's eq profile better.

Did you use a demon bridge for the neck in the superstrat or was it a demon neck? I had this same demon pickup in the neck of my Jackson Dinky for awhile.

Forgot to mention that another thing I did with the LP was switch to 50's wiring but I didn't think that would make that big a difference.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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Also to be more descriptive about what is missing now, it used to be really bassy and deep, but rich. But also very snappy. Tone is still pretty good now but all the umph is lost. Where as before I wanted nothing but that pickup in that guitars neck, now I am rethinking...

 

[Demanic]

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Did you use a demon bridge for the neck in the superstrat or was it a demon neck? I had this same demon pickup in the neck of my Jackson Dinky for awhile.

Forgot to mention that another thing I did with the LP was switch to 50's wiring but I didn't think that would make that big a difference.

There is no official Demon neck pickup that I am aware of.

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[treyhaislip]

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So if I'm reading it correctly, you had a Screamin Demon in the neck with the guitar's original wiring and you loved the tone. Then you "upgraded" the wiring and you don't get the same tone out of the Screamin Demon in the neck? Am I reading that correctly?

I've never seen nor heard of a Screamin Demon neck pickup. I really love the SD in the neck, but its not a traditional setup (and mine was in a Super Strat, not a Les Paul.)

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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K

So if I'm reading it correctly, you had a Screamin Demon in the neck with the guitar's original wiring and you loved the tone. Then you "upgraded" the wiring and you don't get the same tone out of the Screamin Demon in the neck? Am I reading that correctly?

I've never seen nor heard of a Screamin Demon neck pickup. I really love the SD in the neck, but its not a traditional setup (and mine was in a Super Strat, not a Les Paul.)

It's a Screamin demon bridge pickup that I have in the neck position of an LP.
Yes, I Upgraded the wiring but it is wired using 50's wiring specs instead of modern wiring.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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There is no official Demon neck pickup that I am aware of.

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Thanks, I didn't know this. If I did I would have just called it a Demon and maybe avoided some confusion.

 

[Demanic]

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Glad to help. Not all pickups are made in sets.

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[treyhaislip]

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K
It's a Screamin demon bridge pickup that I have in the neck position of an LP.
Yes, I Upgraded the wiring but it is wired using 50's wiring specs instead of modern wiring.

How does the wiring sound with the bridge pickup?

I would say if you really loved the tone of the SD in the neck then switch back to more modern wiring.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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How does the wiring sound with the bridge pickup?

I would say if you really loved the tone of the SD in the neck then switch back to more modern wiring.

The JB is very nice. I like the function of the knobs too.
Not sure I want to switch it back.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

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It may be that the new better quality ones are 500K, while the old ones were of lower value. You might check the old ones to see.

Also, you have 4 knobs; it should be possible to keep the 50s wiring for the bridge pickup and switch the neck back to modern wiring, right? Not sure what the interactions would be like in middle position- perhaps there's a reason why that isn't workable, but offhand it doesn't seem that farfetched to me.

 

[LtKojak]

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If I was you, I'd put the Demon where it belongs and get a Full Shred for the neck.

You can thank me later!

 

[Mr. B]

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I wouldn't use either of those in a Les Paul. To me, Les Pauls have a lot of bass and clear treble naturally, but they lack mids. Putting pickups in them that also emphasize bass and treble while lacking mids is too much of a good thing. It is too unbalanced.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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It may be that the new better quality ones are 500K, while the old ones were of lower value. You might check the old ones to see.

Also, you have 4 knobs; it should be possible to keep the 50s wiring for the bridge pickup and switch the neck back to modern wiring, right? Not sure what the interactions would be like in middle position- perhaps there's a reason why that isn't workable, but offhand it doesn't seem that farfetched to me.

I could give that a try. And I'm sure that the pot values are different. Maybe that changed the sound. I think I would rather change the pickup out and try it somewhere else than get rid of the 50's wiring. It's pretty sweet.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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Another thing that I found that I thought was kind of weird is that with distortion the screaming demon in the neck sounded kind of Bassy but then the clean tone sounded kind of thin - not as bassy as when I used to have it before the mod, just odd.

 

[Buzzin_Cousin]

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If I was you, I'd put the Demon where it belongs and get a Full Shred for the neck.

You can thank me later!

It sounds like the reasonable thing to do, but the JB sounds good there.

I have no idea what made someone put that demon in the neck. I received the guitar like that.

 

[gregory]

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Well, probably because it sounds good.

I've got an SD in the bridge paired with a Full Shred Neck. If my SD wasn't a trembucker I may have stuck it in the neck spot (or one of its coils, at leeast), possibly with an A3 or A4.

FWIW, the Full Shred replaced a loathed 59 neck (actually a Duncan-Ibanez HB101N, but I've been dissatisfied with a 59 neck in other maple-capped mahogany guitars with a set neck). The HB101N may get recycled for parts.

 

[J E C]

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Before switching out the neck PU I would try wiring it with the modern wiring. Doing so, would be quick, easy, and free! All that is involved is firing up the old soldering iron and switching a few wires. If at that point it doesn't do it for you, by all means spend the money.....