'59 vs Seth

[Jeff_H]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Not to totally change the subject, but how in the hell did this thread start out in September of 04', and get brought back to life. Who has enough time to go back that far? And in post #4, dated 9/5/04, Jonsey is talking about the 50th anniversary Duncan pups, which didn't come out until April, 2005. Am I in the twilight zone?

Just wondering.

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Don't be afraid to swap out magnets in these pickups either. I think a 59 would sound really good with an Alnico 3 in the neck and a Seth bridge would sound great with an Alnico 5.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Don't be afraid to swap out magnets in these pickups either. I think a 59 would sound really good with an Alnico 3 in the neck and a Seth bridge would sound great with an Alnico 5.

+1!

I have a 59n (7.50K) that I use with a dun-aged magnet out of a ant neck HB (which now has an a3). Love it! I love both of my a4 and a5 ant bridges. The only concern of mine would be due to my thinking that wax potting makes a differences in terms of 3d depth and harmonics.

B

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: '59 vs Seth

I know the term vintage keeps getting used, but don't forget that pickups are just 'toneshapers.' That means, it's your amp that determines if something sounds vintage or modern, to a large extent. Any metal players that don't think they'd like Seths or 59's will be in for a big surprise when they realize they have better tone than some of the higher output pickups specifically aimed at metal.

Sometimes, highgain rigs hiss too much because they're being pushed too hard by a high output humbucker. Then what do they do?.....put a tonekilling noisegate on it.
You might be better off using Seths or 59's, and bumping up your gain and volume without a noisegate, and then you'll see that the tone is purer and the strings sustain longer because you don't have all that magnetic string-pull from a hot pickup.

 

[Faraday]

Re: '59 vs Seth

I know the term vintage keeps getting used, but don't forget that pickups are just 'toneshapers.' That means, it's your amp that determines if something sounds vintage or modern, to a large extent. Any metal players that don't think they'd like Seths or 59's will be in for a big surprise when they realize they have better tone than some of the higher output pickups specifically aimed at metal.

Sometimes, highgain rigs hiss too much because they're being pushed too hard by a high output humbucker. Then what do they do?.....put a tonekilling noisegate on it.
You might be better off using Seths or 59's, and bumping up your gain and volume without a noisegate, and then you'll see that the tone is purer and the strings sustain longer because you don't have all that magnetic string-pull from a hot pickup.

ATTENTION ALL MODERATORS, THE PRECEDING QUOTE BY GEARJONESER IS THE "FORUM POST OF THE YEAR"

 

[Jeff5]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Yes, GJ rules. Case in point, me. I play a ton of metal, new and old. And I've tried several high output pups, and I really don't like them as much as mid/lower output ones.

 

[Artie]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Not to totally change the subject, but how in the hell did this thread start out in September of 04', and get brought back to life. Who has enough time to go back that far? And in post #4, dated 9/5/04, Jonsey is talking about the 50th anniversary Duncan pups, which didn't come out until April, 2005. Am I in the twilight zone?

Just wondering.

Look at the first and last line in that post . . . he editted it in May, 2005.

Artie

 

[ParameterMan]

Re: '59 vs Seth

Don't be afraid to swap out magnets in these pickups either.

Someone (I think it was Dr Barlo) had some sound samples of an A5 Seth that was walking all over the Antiquities, 59's and assorted Gibson pickups.
Think the Seth vibe with a little more hair and slightly cleaner mids. A really memorable sound. It would also rock to use tape or Dimarzio air-coil guts to add a flux gap to it. That would back off the tightness and grit of the A5 without losing the wider dynamic range and slightly more open edge.