Kenny821
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I have 2 used packs of strings in my Les Paul case, one is Gibson Les Paul Classic 9-46 and the other is Gibson Les Paul Ultra Light 9-42....I actually forget which came standard on the guitar. It's a '97....On my G&L Jerry Cantrell Rampage ( 25.5 ), the springs on the Kahler Pro Series 2320 tremolo are only geared for either 9-42 or 10-46,...it came with 10-46 on it but to use heavier guages, I'd need to change the springs to Kahler bass tremolo springs.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I have 2 used packs of strings in my Les Paul case, one is Gibson Les Paul Classic 9-46 and the other is Gibson Les Paul Ultra Light 9-42....I actually forget which came standard on the guitar. It's a '97....On my G&L Jerry Cantrell Rampage ( 25.5 ), the springs on the Kahler Pro Series 2320 tremolo are only geared for either 9-42 or 10-46,...it came with 10-46 on it but to use heavier guages, I'd need to change the springs to Kahler bass tremolo springs.
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PFDarkside
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Not that it matters, just pointing out that he wasn't always using 8s.
The reason why I'm interested in what other players use and how they setup their guitars is because it might inspire you to play a different way. A guitar with 11s and higher action is going to force you to play differently than a guitar with 9s and low action.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
First three or four albums. Just smokin stuff. He had Pearly setup like a "Man's guitar", until BB talked him into going light.
Not that it matters, just pointing out that he wasn't always using 8s.
The reason why I'm interested in what other players use and how they setup their guitars is because it might inspire you to play a different way. A guitar with 11s and higher action is going to force you to play differently than a guitar with 9s and low action.
RorySquier
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I usually use for all my guitars either 10-46 or 10-52 gauge strings. That's just my preference. Everybody has a different preference so go for what feels good. That's all I have to say.
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I usually use for all my guitars either 10-46 or 10-52 gauge strings. That's just my preference. Everybody has a different preference so go for what feels good. That's all I have to say.
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Nightburst
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
There are a lot of factors that will determine what you feel is right on your guitar but what is most important is that you are the one controlling the strings and not the other way around.
On my Gibson SG with short scale, D'Addario EXL140 10-52 are perfect for me to play in any style. I feel like 46 are too loose for faster, heavier stuff. I rely heavily on the bounciness/tightness of the low strings to play fast dynamic palm muted stuff, makes it feel effortless and dynamic. It does make it harder to execute pinch harmonics on the low strings though. That's the trade-off.
10's on high strings are perfect to bend easily and not fatigue my hands when playing a 4 hour rehearsal session.
I find that different brands of the same gauge have a different feel also, same for anything that is not your standard steel core/nickel wound type string.
Heavier stings definitely sound more beefy IMO.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
There are a lot of factors that will determine what you feel is right on your guitar but what is most important is that you are the one controlling the strings and not the other way around.
On my Gibson SG with short scale, D'Addario EXL140 10-52 are perfect for me to play in any style. I feel like 46 are too loose for faster, heavier stuff. I rely heavily on the bounciness/tightness of the low strings to play fast dynamic palm muted stuff, makes it feel effortless and dynamic. It does make it harder to execute pinch harmonics on the low strings though. That's the trade-off.
10's on high strings are perfect to bend easily and not fatigue my hands when playing a 4 hour rehearsal session.
I find that different brands of the same gauge have a different feel also, same for anything that is not your standard steel core/nickel wound type string.
Heavier stings definitely sound more beefy IMO.
Obsessive Compulsive
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
They do suck. But to me it's more about the feel than the tone. Light strings feel like soggy bottoms...soggy.
I've used 11-49 since 2006, regardless of the type of the guitar, LP, Strat, amoeba-shaped, you name it. A few times I even used 12s (with wound 3rd). I wish they were still available these days.
Some people have soft fingers and weak physique, hence their choice of 9-42. I can't blame them for that.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
They do suck. But to me it's more about the feel than the tone. Light strings feel like soggy bottoms...soggy.
I've used 11-49 since 2006, regardless of the type of the guitar, LP, Strat, amoeba-shaped, you name it. A few times I even used 12s (with wound 3rd). I wish they were still available these days.
Some people have soft fingers and weak physique, hence their choice of 9-42. I can't blame them for that.
dystrust
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Kahler makes heavy duty springs for their guitar bridges and I'm not sure if they're the same as the bass tremolo springs; I suspect they're different. I have a set of the heavy duty springs in my 2320 because I used to use 11s on that guitar; it's currently strung with 10-46 in E-flat and I find I prefer the heavier springs with these as well. The parts are cheap and it only takes a few minutes to swap the springs.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Kahler makes heavy duty springs for their guitar bridges and I'm not sure if they're the same as the bass tremolo springs; I suspect they're different. I have a set of the heavy duty springs in my 2320 because I used to use 11s on that guitar; it's currently strung with 10-46 in E-flat and I find I prefer the heavier springs with these as well. The parts are cheap and it only takes a few minutes to swap the springs.
Phantasmagoria
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
After quite a bit of experimenting I've come to the conclusion that 9-42 is all I will ever need. Feel best (I'm not one for Iced Earth kinda triplets) and sound best as far as I'm concerned. Nice open mids, singing top & ballsy bottom (& I play in a doom/death metal band...). Plus way sweeter overtones for solo's & easy to handle..
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
After quite a bit of experimenting I've come to the conclusion that 9-42 is all I will ever need. Feel best (I'm not one for Iced Earth kinda triplets) and sound best as far as I'm concerned. Nice open mids, singing top & ballsy bottom (& I play in a doom/death metal band...). Plus way sweeter overtones for solo's & easy to handle..
toowrongfoo
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
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Here's what I say, it's COMPLETELY and TOTALLY dependent on you as a player. For example, I have a tendency to smack strings a bit harder than the average person. At my old age, I'm getting better, but it's still really more "smakedness" that is necessary. 10-46 seems to be about right for my 25" guitar.
YMMV. If you have more control over your playing, you can do lighter strings. Steve Vai (you know, regardless of style, he's pretty good) starts tours with 9-42 and THEN might change to 10-46. Yngwie Malmsteen uses 8's. Can't remember which god I saw recently (some youtube thing) that he said 9-42's (Lukather???????)
I dunno, you can play with style and fineness with tuning ok depending on YOU more than anything. Everything else is simply preference.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Here's what I say, it's COMPLETELY and TOTALLY dependent on you as a player. For example, I have a tendency to smack strings a bit harder than the average person. At my old age, I'm getting better, but it's still really more "smakedness" that is necessary. 10-46 seems to be about right for my 25" guitar.
YMMV. If you have more control over your playing, you can do lighter strings. Steve Vai (you know, regardless of style, he's pretty good) starts tours with 9-42 and THEN might change to 10-46. Yngwie Malmsteen uses 8's. Can't remember which god I saw recently (some youtube thing) that he said 9-42's (Lukather???????)
I dunno, you can play with style and fineness with tuning ok depending on YOU more than anything. Everything else is simply preference.
Boogie Bill
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I use 9-42 on my 25.5" G&Ls, and use 10-46 on my Gibson 335s and Pauls...except...
...my LP 1960 Classics came with the Gibson Les Paul Signature Strings in....9-46. After experimenting with various set-ups with 9-42 and 10-46, I finally settled on going back to the 9-46. I also found these to work really well on my two LP Supremes. That's what works best on those four guitars. But I have to be very careful to not over-bend on those treble strings. I may try to go back to the 10-46 sets, if only because keeping track of string inventory is a PITA.
Some guitars can be very finicky about their set-up and string gauges. Be sure though, to check the radius of strings at the saddle. It should match the radius of your fingerboard. You may need to file the saddle notches on the Tune-O-Matic bridge. No matter what string gauge you use, doing this will have your Gibson playing "like buttah".
Bill
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I use 9-42 on my 25.5" G&Ls, and use 10-46 on my Gibson 335s and Pauls...except...
...my LP 1960 Classics came with the Gibson Les Paul Signature Strings in....9-46. After experimenting with various set-ups with 9-42 and 10-46, I finally settled on going back to the 9-46. I also found these to work really well on my two LP Supremes. That's what works best on those four guitars. But I have to be very careful to not over-bend on those treble strings. I may try to go back to the 10-46 sets, if only because keeping track of string inventory is a PITA.
Some guitars can be very finicky about their set-up and string gauges. Be sure though, to check the radius of strings at the saddle. It should match the radius of your fingerboard. You may need to file the saddle notches on the Tune-O-Matic bridge. No matter what string gauge you use, doing this will have your Gibson playing "like buttah".
Bill
Discharged
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I just can't feel comfortable playing with anything less than 11-52, even on 25,5" scaled-instruments.
And I DO bend strings, mind you.
/Peter
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I just can't feel comfortable playing with anything less than 11-52, even on 25,5" scaled-instruments.
And I DO bend strings, mind you.
/Peter
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Damn, I guess I forgot :laugh2:. I do use 10-46 on my AXL LP copy which is short scale ..all (15) of my other guitars are 25.5 super-strats.
It's more a matter of the tension though. I still prefer the sound of that guitar with extra light's...
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Damn, I guess I forgot :laugh2:. I do use 10-46 on my AXL LP copy which is short scale ..all (15) of my other guitars are 25.5 super-strats.
It's more a matter of the tension though. I still prefer the sound of that guitar with extra light's...
LLL
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Generally speaking:
With the right equipment & know-how, any gauge of strings can be made to sound the way you like.
Use the gauge that is most comfortable to you.
Take for instance Tony Iommi, who created some of the heaviest sounding riffage ever:
D# Standard: .008 – .008 – .011 – .018w – .024 – .032
C# Standard: .009 – .010 – .012 – .020w – .032 – .042
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Generally speaking:
With the right equipment & know-how, any gauge of strings can be made to sound the way you like.
Use the gauge that is most comfortable to you.
Take for instance Tony Iommi, who created some of the heaviest sounding riffage ever:
D# Standard: .008 – .008 – .011 – .018w – .024 – .032
C# Standard: .009 – .010 – .012 – .020w – .032 – .042
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6stringerguy
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
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Really depends on how hard you play and what you play...
Me I am very heavy handed so love the feel of 10-52 in E regardless of scale length
10-52 is also fine for drop d for me
I’ve found that as I’ve got more advanced as a player I prefer thinner strings such as 9-46 on a 25.5 scale but I can’t play as hard as I used to but for faster stuff it’s good to remove that resistance
If you play fast or articulate riffs with a lot of bending then yeah use thinner strings
If you hit your strings like you want to destroy them, go thicker
All depends what’s comfortable for the individual
Also different brands will have different tensions despite being the same gauge
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Really depends on how hard you play and what you play...
Me I am very heavy handed so love the feel of 10-52 in E regardless of scale length
10-52 is also fine for drop d for me
I’ve found that as I’ve got more advanced as a player I prefer thinner strings such as 9-46 on a 25.5 scale but I can’t play as hard as I used to but for faster stuff it’s good to remove that resistance
If you play fast or articulate riffs with a lot of bending then yeah use thinner strings
If you hit your strings like you want to destroy them, go thicker
All depends what’s comfortable for the individual
Also different brands will have different tensions despite being the same gauge
blueman335
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Right, strings are one piece of the tone formula. Let's add PU's, pots, magnets, resistors, etc. You can adjust your tone to sound full & heavy with those for any gauge string.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Right, strings are one piece of the tone formula. Let's add PU's, pots, magnets, resistors, etc. You can adjust your tone to sound full & heavy with those for any gauge string.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
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There's bending, and then there's Peter Green/Danny Kirwan bending...
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There's bending, and then there's Peter Green/Danny Kirwan bending...
BleedingFingertips
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
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I don't remember how a short scale guitar plays, I only remember that I didn't like it and got rid of mine. Now I have all in 25.5 scale and I found that the gauge of the high strings is less crucial than that of the low strings, especially the low E. I didn't really feel the difference between 10-56 and 11-56 in D standard in terms of bending and stuff. But 52 or 56 on the low E is night and day.
For the standard E I would go with like 9/10-50/52, if there is something like this on the market.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
I don't remember how a short scale guitar plays, I only remember that I didn't like it and got rid of mine. Now I have all in 25.5 scale and I found that the gauge of the high strings is less crucial than that of the low strings, especially the low E. I didn't really feel the difference between 10-56 and 11-56 in D standard in terms of bending and stuff. But 52 or 56 on the low E is night and day.
For the standard E I would go with like 9/10-50/52, if there is something like this on the market.
Clint 55
OH THE DOUBLE THICK GLAZE!
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
That's why I dig D standard, the tone is nice and full because the notes are lower. I like my fat 11-56 set but 10-52s work fine for full clean tone. Now guitars in standard tuning sound tinny to me frequently.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
That's why I dig D standard, the tone is nice and full because the notes are lower. I like my fat 11-56 set but 10-52s work fine for full clean tone. Now guitars in standard tuning sound tinny to me frequently.
BleedingFingertips
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Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Word. I once bought a cheap Charvel with anonymous stock humbuckers and they sounded almost single-coil'ish to me. With a 12-60 set tuned to C standard, it got almost as good as Amon Amarth or something similar. Strings and tuning matter.
Re: 9-46 Strings in Standard on 24.75”
Word. I once bought a cheap Charvel with anonymous stock humbuckers and they sounded almost single-coil'ish to me. With a 12-60 set tuned to C standard, it got almost as good as Amon Amarth or something similar. Strings and tuning matter.
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