LLCooLM495
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Is there such thing as a cab that i can use guitar and bass heads on (not at the same time)?
A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
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baritone
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
Go for a bass cab & optimize the EQ for each amp for the cab. Any bass cab would be safe to use for guitar & bass; however, bass speakers sound really different. Guitar speakers can potentially be damaged by low bass frequencies.
Go for a bass cab & optimize the EQ for each amp for the cab. Any bass cab would be safe to use for guitar & bass; however, bass speakers sound really different. Guitar speakers can potentially be damaged by low bass frequencies.
Rand-O-Monium
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
4x10
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Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
Lemmy also had a very bright sound that was more similar to a guitar than a bass.
Lemmy also had a very bright sound that was more similar to a guitar than a bass.
Myaccount876
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
Fender Bassman cabinet.
Practically, you can use any guitar or bass cabinet with any guitar or bass amp (as long as the impedances are matched) - it's not like your gear will burst into flames. You can blow speakers if you aren't careful, but you can blow guitar speakers with a guitar amp (even if the speaker has a higher power rating than an amp's peak wattage); the claim that bass amps will destroy guitar speakers is a bit exaggerated. The real question is simply what will sound good to you, and that requires experimentation. There isn't really a straight answer.
Things to consider: Many guitar speakers have a frequency range that goes pretty low: about 80 Hz. Yes, The fundamental notes of a bass guitar go much lower than that, but so does a guitar's notes. A guitar tuned to C# standard has a low C#2 which is ~69 Hz - below quite a few guitar speakers' frequency range, yet that doesn't really damage the speakers. There's even people using regular guitar amps with 8 string guitars that can go down to G1 (~49 Hz - bass guitar range) which is well below a guitar speaker's range, yet again that still doesn't necessarily cause problems. Part of the reason there isn't a problem with low guitar tunings through a guitar rig is that guitar amps are designed to inherently cut unwanted frequencies, mainly extreme low frequencies so that they don't even reach the speaker and thus won't damage them. If you run a bass amp through a guitar cabinet - just don't include extreme low frequencies when EQ'ing the amp (sometimes even bass amps will cut these frequencies anyways), get speaker's with a low enough frequency range, or utilize crossover networks to send those frequencies outside a guitar speaker's range to a separate subwoofer. You could just cut anything below 60 Hz with an EQ in a bass amp's effects loop, and you won't have to worry about low frequencies damaging the speakers, and it won't really be detrimental to the tone (those frequencies are much more "felt" more than they are "heard", and are usually cut in a mix anyways to avoid low end build up). Also, keep in mind that it takes more power to amplify low frequencies than say, midrange frequencies. So it'd be a good idea to have speakers that have a high power rating to accomodate a bass amp's inherent higher power capabilities, and lower frequencies won't cause the speaker to distort so early.
It's very doable. The Fender Bassman, while not the best amp for bass, can be used for bass through a guitar cabinet and still sound fine. It's not always an ideal setup but like most things gear related, it's fine if you just shut up and play.
Fender Bassman cabinet.
Practically, you can use any guitar or bass cabinet with any guitar or bass amp (as long as the impedances are matched) - it's not like your gear will burst into flames. You can blow speakers if you aren't careful, but you can blow guitar speakers with a guitar amp (even if the speaker has a higher power rating than an amp's peak wattage); the claim that bass amps will destroy guitar speakers is a bit exaggerated. The real question is simply what will sound good to you, and that requires experimentation. There isn't really a straight answer.
Things to consider: Many guitar speakers have a frequency range that goes pretty low: about 80 Hz. Yes, The fundamental notes of a bass guitar go much lower than that, but so does a guitar's notes. A guitar tuned to C# standard has a low C#2 which is ~69 Hz - below quite a few guitar speakers' frequency range, yet that doesn't really damage the speakers. There's even people using regular guitar amps with 8 string guitars that can go down to G1 (~49 Hz - bass guitar range) which is well below a guitar speaker's range, yet again that still doesn't necessarily cause problems. Part of the reason there isn't a problem with low guitar tunings through a guitar rig is that guitar amps are designed to inherently cut unwanted frequencies, mainly extreme low frequencies so that they don't even reach the speaker and thus won't damage them. If you run a bass amp through a guitar cabinet - just don't include extreme low frequencies when EQ'ing the amp (sometimes even bass amps will cut these frequencies anyways), get speaker's with a low enough frequency range, or utilize crossover networks to send those frequencies outside a guitar speaker's range to a separate subwoofer. You could just cut anything below 60 Hz with an EQ in a bass amp's effects loop, and you won't have to worry about low frequencies damaging the speakers, and it won't really be detrimental to the tone (those frequencies are much more "felt" more than they are "heard", and are usually cut in a mix anyways to avoid low end build up). Also, keep in mind that it takes more power to amplify low frequencies than say, midrange frequencies. So it'd be a good idea to have speakers that have a high power rating to accomodate a bass amp's inherent higher power capabilities, and lower frequencies won't cause the speaker to distort so early.
It's very doable. The Fender Bassman, while not the best amp for bass, can be used for bass through a guitar cabinet and still sound fine. It's not always an ideal setup but like most things gear related, it's fine if you just shut up and play.
Empty Pockets
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
Lots of old Sunn cabs are tuned for either / both. I run a model T and a 2x15 for bass a lot and it's awesome for guitar, too. Might have to tweak the EQ or switch out some pedals but the tone works either way.
Lots of old Sunn cabs are tuned for either / both. I run a model T and a 2x15 for bass a lot and it's awesome for guitar, too. Might have to tweak the EQ or switch out some pedals but the tone works either way.
Swampy
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
Yuup.
My 4x10 Beta Lead combo does the job for both.
Yuup.
My 4x10 Beta Lead combo does the job for both.
devastone
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Re: A Cab I Can Use for Guitar and Bass?
I'm personally not a fan of 10" and smaller speakers for guitar, could be that I just haven't tried the right ones(?). My suggestion would be to look for a cab with EV12L or Eminence Delta speakers in it, they are higher power (200AW) speakers that will stay cleaner than lower wattage guitar speakers. I think both were originally intended as PA midrange drivers but they sound great for guitar and will stay clean enough for bass. Zakk Wylde uses the EVs in his cabs, and I know the cabs Vai used on the Whitesnake tour had EVs in them, lots more people use them too I'm sure. I have a 1-12 open back cab with a Delta Pro in it around here, if I get a chance I'll try running a bass through it later.
I'm personally not a fan of 10" and smaller speakers for guitar, could be that I just haven't tried the right ones(?). My suggestion would be to look for a cab with EV12L or Eminence Delta speakers in it, they are higher power (200AW) speakers that will stay cleaner than lower wattage guitar speakers. I think both were originally intended as PA midrange drivers but they sound great for guitar and will stay clean enough for bass. Zakk Wylde uses the EVs in his cabs, and I know the cabs Vai used on the Whitesnake tour had EVs in them, lots more people use them too I'm sure. I have a 1-12 open back cab with a Delta Pro in it around here, if I get a chance I'll try running a bass through it later.
