A custom 5 based trembucker.
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
In the probability of the construction of a fullshred / jb hybrid with alnico 5 bar magnet,
.... And heavy formvar insulation on the JB screw coil I would like to have your opinion.
What suits better for me knowing that I do not like JB's high mids and that I love the custom 5's scooped sound?
Or rather, what differences would I have if this same pickup had been fitted with:
- alnico 5 rough cast
- an alnico oriented 5 bar
- regular alnico 5 bar
And compared to insulation ... There are several kinds I think.
-heavy formvar
-heavy poly
-enamel ....
What would you do?
In the probability of the construction of a fullshred / jb hybrid with alnico 5 bar magnet,
.... And heavy formvar insulation on the JB screw coil I would like to have your opinion.
What suits better for me knowing that I do not like JB's high mids and that I love the custom 5's scooped sound?
Or rather, what differences would I have if this same pickup had been fitted with:
- alnico 5 rough cast
- an alnico oriented 5 bar
- regular alnico 5 bar
And compared to insulation ... There are several kinds I think.
-heavy formvar
-heavy poly
-enamel ....
What would you do?
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
I can do that. But I would like to reed different opinions.
I can do that. But I would like to reed different opinions.
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
if you have those at your disposal and like the scooped sound of the c5, id start with a polished oriented a5. if that is too upper middy then try the rough cast
if you have those at your disposal and like the scooped sound of the c5, id start with a polished oriented a5. if that is too upper middy then try the rough cast
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
I found a dealer for buy magnets.... But not rough cast (for shipping in France)... But Thanks for advice.
I found a dealer for buy magnets.... But not rough cast (for shipping in France)... But Thanks for advice.
Masta' C
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
Both pickups you have shown us are trem-spaced.
Your friend's ESP has a trem-spaced bridge. Most imports do, even with TOM setups. Even the majority of USA Gibsons haven't been "regular" spaced at the bridge since the '80s.
As for magnets:
- Regular, polished A5 is the strongest and most pronounced.
- Roughcast A5 takes the "edge" off of the attack, but doesn't really change the overall tone and the strength of the magnet is on-par with the polished version.
- Unoriented A5 (aka: UOA5) has a noticeably lower output than the previous two versions and tends to take on some A2-esque qualities without being nearly as warm and round as A2. UOA5 is great for taming a high output A5 pickup without losing all of the cool qualities of the A5 mag.
If you want to read opinions, I suggest you do a search here on the forums...there's a TON of info on magnets out there already
Both pickups you have shown us are trem-spaced.
Your friend's ESP has a trem-spaced bridge. Most imports do, even with TOM setups. Even the majority of USA Gibsons haven't been "regular" spaced at the bridge since the '80s.
As for magnets:
- Regular, polished A5 is the strongest and most pronounced.
- Roughcast A5 takes the "edge" off of the attack, but doesn't really change the overall tone and the strength of the magnet is on-par with the polished version.
- Unoriented A5 (aka: UOA5) has a noticeably lower output than the previous two versions and tends to take on some A2-esque qualities without being nearly as warm and round as A2. UOA5 is great for taming a high output A5 pickup without losing all of the cool qualities of the A5 mag.
If you want to read opinions, I suggest you do a search here on the forums...there's a TON of info on magnets out there already
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
OK.. Thanks.
UOA5 are in my opinion not made for metal or high gain applications if I understand what you wrote...
So rough cast or regular should be the better option....
OK.. Thanks.
UOA5 are in my opinion not made for metal or high gain applications if I understand what you wrote...
So rough cast or regular should be the better option....
Demanic
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
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I have a JB with a rough UOA5 in it. I use it for high gain metal and I think that it works great.
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Masta' C
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
UOA5 can work great for high gain and metal!
Sometimes a regular A5 has too much output or comes off a bit harsh and a UOA5 remedies that. Sometimes the bite and percussive nature of a regular A5 is exactly what you need to cut through.
Really depends on the pickup's particular wind, the guitar it's in, your overall signal chain/amp set up and what you play.
Hard to know which is best for YOU until you try one of the options mentioned and determine what you do and/or don't like about it.
UOA5 can work great for high gain and metal!
Sometimes a regular A5 has too much output or comes off a bit harsh and a UOA5 remedies that. Sometimes the bite and percussive nature of a regular A5 is exactly what you need to cut through.
Really depends on the pickup's particular wind, the guitar it's in, your overall signal chain/amp set up and what you play.
Hard to know which is best for YOU until you try one of the options mentioned and determine what you do and/or don't like about it.
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
I get one c5/jb hybrid at home with 13.2 resistance.
So.... I'm interesting testing.
If I like custom 5 scooped tonality and not want jb's high mids, wich Other coil could satisfy me, do you think?
What could, in YOUR opinion, sounds good without sacrifying the base of the c5? (good clarity, rich (pinch) harmonics, fast runs ability)
If I reed the tonal chart from some pickups, it seems to like that the sentient could be a good choice isn't it?
Tonality between jazz and 59...a little bit scooped. Could this be interesting, with a5 magnet.?
He has a good reputation.... Chords, fast runs etc....
Everything seems to be interesting on this cool.
Another choice could be a Jason Becker coil paired with a c5. Coil?
What do you mean?
@ orpheo:
I've (4 years ago) savr the phone conversation between myself and MJ (because my English was bad, so I can listen more times)
I've found that on my hard disk.
It seems that she made me a jb/full shred hybrid with heavy poly (not heavy formvar)... But the fullshred with slugs, not hex screws because slugs give a more fuller sounding tone.
I get one c5/jb hybrid at home with 13.2 resistance.
So.... I'm interesting testing.
If I like custom 5 scooped tonality and not want jb's high mids, wich Other coil could satisfy me, do you think?
What could, in YOUR opinion, sounds good without sacrifying the base of the c5? (good clarity, rich (pinch) harmonics, fast runs ability)
If I reed the tonal chart from some pickups, it seems to like that the sentient could be a good choice isn't it?
Tonality between jazz and 59...a little bit scooped. Could this be interesting, with a5 magnet.?
He has a good reputation.... Chords, fast runs etc....
Everything seems to be interesting on this cool.
Another choice could be a Jason Becker coil paired with a c5. Coil?
What do you mean?
@ orpheo:
I've (4 years ago) savr the phone conversation between myself and MJ (because my English was bad, so I can listen more times)
I've found that on my hard disk.
It seems that she made me a jb/full shred hybrid with heavy poly (not heavy formvar)... But the fullshred with slugs, not hex screws because slugs give a more fuller sounding tone.
ToneFiddler
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
i would say screamin Demon TB-12 or maybe Pegasus.
both have some Scoop.
but they are not what i would call fluid.
i would say screamin Demon TB-12 or maybe Pegasus.
both have some Scoop.
but they are not what i would call fluid.
Big Mike Blues
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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
I think you're over thinking this.
At some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in.
I think you're over thinking this.
At some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in.
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
Hello everyone.
I went to get my guitar today at my luthier's house.
The hybrid jb / full shred is mounted on it. I can test as I want .... I think I made a mistake by making this customshop pup
Let me explain ....
The first important thing:
this pup has an aggressiveness like I've never heard before. I think this is clearly because of the alnico 8.
I like metal ..... I like to have power with a pup, like we all know with usual pickups .... But here it's too much.
Each guitar stroke is a blow in the face. It's too aggressive (I never thought I'd write such a thing one day).
Attention ... I'm not saying it's a bad pickup .... certainly not, but clearly with alico 8, too aggressive.
What I love is that he have the harmonics like active pup's (emg 81). It's really the same.
The second thing is the sound in general. It is to different from the custom 5 ... in any case, with the alnico 8.
The sound is fluid, limpid, articulate. Perfect for solos. But the jb coil is too present, we still recognize his note. the overall sound is not enough Paf oriented.
This pup is great it goes without saying. I will have to put an alnico 5 to test.
The alnico 8 in bridge =
Much too aggressive.
The mids are really round but put in front. He bites a ****ing lot.
But in general, the highs are very crystalline / bright.
I never thought a Pickup with DC resistance of 13.2 could be so aggressive.
What I do not like at all With alnico 8 is that in the sound there is nothing organic. Perhaps a little uncontrollable.
Hello everyone.
I went to get my guitar today at my luthier's house.
The hybrid jb / full shred is mounted on it. I can test as I want .... I think I made a mistake by making this customshop pup
Let me explain ....
The first important thing:
this pup has an aggressiveness like I've never heard before. I think this is clearly because of the alnico 8.
I like metal ..... I like to have power with a pup, like we all know with usual pickups .... But here it's too much.
Each guitar stroke is a blow in the face. It's too aggressive (I never thought I'd write such a thing one day).
Attention ... I'm not saying it's a bad pickup .... certainly not, but clearly with alico 8, too aggressive.
What I love is that he have the harmonics like active pup's (emg 81). It's really the same.
The second thing is the sound in general. It is to different from the custom 5 ... in any case, with the alnico 8.
The sound is fluid, limpid, articulate. Perfect for solos. But the jb coil is too present, we still recognize his note. the overall sound is not enough Paf oriented.
This pup is great it goes without saying. I will have to put an alnico 5 to test.
The alnico 8 in bridge =
Much too aggressive.
The mids are really round but put in front. He bites a ****ing lot.
But in general, the highs are very crystalline / bright.
I never thought a Pickup with DC resistance of 13.2 could be so aggressive.
What I do not like at all With alnico 8 is that in the sound there is nothing organic. Perhaps a little uncontrollable.
Demanic
PenultimateTone Member
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.
Sounds like my kind of pickup. Remember, pickups with A8's in them tend to be very sensitive to height adjustment. Before you change the magnet, try running the pickup farther away from the strings then you normally would.
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Sounds like my kind of pickup. Remember, pickups with A8's in them tend to be very sensitive to height adjustment. Before you change the magnet, try running the pickup farther away from the strings then you normally would.
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Gtrjunior
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