Re: A good Les Paul... priceless
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A good Les Paul... priceless
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toowrongfoo
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Re: A good Les Paul... priceless
I can't play 'em. Anything over G blues scale high and my fingers simply won't fit. OTOH, my Carvin (rip) I can easily play B blues licks up high.
I can't play 'em. Anything over G blues scale high and my fingers simply won't fit. OTOH, my Carvin (rip) I can easily play B blues licks up high.
toowrongfoo
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Will someone kill me if i say the Eclipse shape has outdone Les Paul?
Black LP - sure. Black Eclipse - drool.
Will someone kill me if i say the Eclipse shape has outdone Les Paul?
Black LP - sure. Black Eclipse - drool.
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LOL!! Guess putting Burny and beast in the same sentence could make one think that. No, mine is a Japanese Burny which is a great Les Paul copy. Burny is owned by Fernandes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burny
LOL!! Guess putting Burny and beast in the same sentence could make one think that. No, mine is a Japanese Burny which is a great Les Paul copy. Burny is owned by Fernandes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burny
toowrongfoo
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Ah, thanks!
Ah, thanks!
eclecticsynergy
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I have a Burny too, a mid-'80s LP Custom that totally rocks. Matsumoku made, it's all mahog- no maple cap- and very lively at volume. The white finish has darkened over the years to a nice ivory. I'm fond of MIJ LPs and have accumulated a few of 'em, including the Burny and two FujiGen builds: an Orville, and an OrvilleByGibson. The craftsmanship on all three is very good indeed.
But the '83 I mentioned in an earlier post is just amazing. A Guitar Trader pre-Historic: select wood, incredible fat neck. The guitar just sings, and truly feels alive in my hands. Great even when brand new but after nearly thirty-five years together we have a real synergy, beyond every other LP I've ever owned (that's about twenty or so). I'd have to say the only other axes I've developed such a close bond with are the trusty old '62 Strat I bought back in '81, and my very first PRS, another truly vibrant long-tenon axe that's been my #1 all-rounder for the last thirty years.
Another LP that came close to that feeling was a sweet '54 Custom reissue I got back in 1972, the model with the staple neck pickup. That one was stolen many years ago and I still miss it sometimes.
Here's the '83. A lot of wear & tear on her after hundreds of live sets, but she wears it proudly. I named her Amaterasu after the Shinto sun goddess.
And the Burny.
I have a Burny too, a mid-'80s LP Custom that totally rocks. Matsumoku made, it's all mahog- no maple cap- and very lively at volume. The white finish has darkened over the years to a nice ivory. I'm fond of MIJ LPs and have accumulated a few of 'em, including the Burny and two FujiGen builds: an Orville, and an OrvilleByGibson. The craftsmanship on all three is very good indeed.
But the '83 I mentioned in an earlier post is just amazing. A Guitar Trader pre-Historic: select wood, incredible fat neck. The guitar just sings, and truly feels alive in my hands. Great even when brand new but after nearly thirty-five years together we have a real synergy, beyond every other LP I've ever owned (that's about twenty or so). I'd have to say the only other axes I've developed such a close bond with are the trusty old '62 Strat I bought back in '81, and my very first PRS, another truly vibrant long-tenon axe that's been my #1 all-rounder for the last thirty years.
Another LP that came close to that feeling was a sweet '54 Custom reissue I got back in 1972, the model with the staple neck pickup. That one was stolen many years ago and I still miss it sometimes.
Here's the '83. A lot of wear & tear on her after hundreds of live sets, but she wears it proudly. I named her Amaterasu after the Shinto sun goddess.
And the Burny.
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That is almost identical to my Burny.. Mine is an 80s model too, but cant pinpoint year or anything as they didnt serial number them then. Is yours extremely heavy? mine is around 11 lbs.. But, also white, gold hardware, block inlays...
I have a Burny too, a mid-'80s LP Custom that totally rocks. Matsumoku made, it's all mahog- no maple cap- and very lively at volume. The white finish has darkened over the years to a nice ivory. I'm fond of MIJ LPs and have accumulated a few of 'em, including the Burny and two FujiGen builds: an Orville, and an OrvilleByGibson. The craftsmanship on all three is very good indeed.
But the '83 I mentioned in an earlier post is just amazing. A Guitar Trader pre-Historic: select wood, incredible fat neck. The guitar just sings, and truly feels alive in my hands. Great even when brand new but after nearly thirty-five years together we have a real synergy, beyond every other LP I've ever owned (that's about twenty or so). I'd have to say the only other axes I've developed such a close bond with are the trusty old '62 Strat I bought back in '81, and my very first PRS, another truly vibrant long-tenon axe that's been my #1 all-rounder for the last thirty years.
Another LP that came close to that feeling was a sweet '54 Custom reissue I got back in 1972, the model with the staple neck pickup. That one was stolen many years ago and I still miss it sometimes.
Here's the '83. A lot of wear & tear on her after hundreds of live sets, but she wears it proudly. I named her Amaterasu after the Shinto sun goddess.
And the Burny.
That is almost identical to my Burny.. Mine is an 80s model too, but cant pinpoint year or anything as they didnt serial number them then. Is yours extremely heavy? mine is around 11 lbs.. But, also white, gold hardware, block inlays...
eclecticsynergy
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That's heavy all right. Mine's lighter than yours, but still has some heft at 9.35lbs. I like the split diamond on the headstock, it's just the right thing for a LPC. Later Burny LPCs had a sort of lightning bolt variation, just different enough to avoid litigation.
My heaviest instrument is MIJ also, a '72 Ibanez lawsuit Jazz Bass that weighs in at 12lbs. I used that one on a number of records back in the days of vinyl; it's a beast but it sounds great.
Some can date Burnys (somewhat approximately) by the pickups, if original. There's some info with pics near the bottom of this page:
http://www.japanguitars.co.uk/burny info.html
That's heavy all right. Mine's lighter than yours, but still has some heft at 9.35lbs. I like the split diamond on the headstock, it's just the right thing for a LPC. Later Burny LPCs had a sort of lightning bolt variation, just different enough to avoid litigation.
My heaviest instrument is MIJ also, a '72 Ibanez lawsuit Jazz Bass that weighs in at 12lbs. I used that one on a number of records back in the days of vinyl; it's a beast but it sounds great.
Some can date Burnys (somewhat approximately) by the pickups, if original. There's some info with pics near the bottom of this page:
http://www.japanguitars.co.uk/burny info.html
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toowrongfoo
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I should know what that brand is. I love MIJ guitars and basses.
I should know what that brand is. I love MIJ guitars and basses.
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mine came with a zakk wylde emg set in it.. I replaced with Bk Rebel yells. Yeah, the new logo is goofy looking
mine came with a zakk wylde emg set in it.. I replaced with Bk Rebel yells. Yeah, the new logo is goofy looking
eclecticsynergy
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Do you like the Rebel Yells in this guitar? I have a gold covered set that I'd considered dropping in. Worried that they might be a little too bright or JB-ishly aggressive in the upper mids... Have been leaning toward RioGrandes maybe. I love the TX/BBQ set I have in another axe.
Do you like the Rebel Yells in this guitar? I have a gold covered set that I'd considered dropping in. Worried that they might be a little too bright or JB-ishly aggressive in the upper mids... Have been leaning toward RioGrandes maybe. I love the TX/BBQ set I have in another axe.
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Oh yeah, I dig the Rebel Yells in it. Of course, tone is subjective and each guitar could have a diff tone.. Im a big fan of the BBQ too.. If you feel YOUR guitar is on the bright side, the BBQ may be a better fit. I have my RY's tapped with push pull pots.
Oh yeah, I dig the Rebel Yells in it. Of course, tone is subjective and each guitar could have a diff tone.. Im a big fan of the BBQ too.. If you feel YOUR guitar is on the bright side, the BBQ may be a better fit. I have my RY's tapped with push pull pots.
uOpt
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Even I manage to own a Gibson branded (non-vintage) guitar that I really like now.
However, the 1980s Japanese Les Pauls I have give it a good run, and not just for the money. I also snagged an old Ibanez musician at the local GC that I didn't fully explore yet, but it isn't behind that Gibson.
Even I manage to own a Gibson branded (non-vintage) guitar that I really like now.
However, the 1980s Japanese Les Pauls I have give it a good run, and not just for the money. I also snagged an old Ibanez musician at the local GC that I didn't fully explore yet, but it isn't behind that Gibson.
Nostalgic Distortion
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For the purpose of this conversation I'll just refer to the more modern ones that I have...
I have three modern day Gibson Les Paul's (all 2016's or 2017's) & I think they are all flipping great ones!!! I even own one of those silly Gibson C.M.'s which I bought brand new for $399 shipped & that's a great guitar! Anything that I've bought that wasn't great & had that particular logo on it wasn't mine for long. Mostly because I'll just keep sending them back until I get one that that is free of anything that bothers me & has a decent neck angle? Personally I've found that the fluctuations neck angles, seconded by general craftsmanship, is what really matters most in their Q.C. process & for some reason they seem to be passing through guitars these days that would have likely been burned after the drying rack 20 years ago pretty regularly....
As for returning them, it's kinda funny how after you do this a couple times they seem to be a little more interested in oh, actually opening the box, inspecting the guitar before shipping it, & getting you a quality instrument!!! Unfortunately I think these days there's as many "bad ones" out there as good on both the new & used markets so if you're going to buy one sight unseen you have to take some measures to protect yourself? At the very least ask lots of questions & try to buy from a trusted seller...
For the purpose of this conversation I'll just refer to the more modern ones that I have...
I have three modern day Gibson Les Paul's (all 2016's or 2017's) & I think they are all flipping great ones!!! I even own one of those silly Gibson C.M.'s which I bought brand new for $399 shipped & that's a great guitar! Anything that I've bought that wasn't great & had that particular logo on it wasn't mine for long. Mostly because I'll just keep sending them back until I get one that that is free of anything that bothers me & has a decent neck angle? Personally I've found that the fluctuations neck angles, seconded by general craftsmanship, is what really matters most in their Q.C. process & for some reason they seem to be passing through guitars these days that would have likely been burned after the drying rack 20 years ago pretty regularly....
As for returning them, it's kinda funny how after you do this a couple times they seem to be a little more interested in oh, actually opening the box, inspecting the guitar before shipping it, & getting you a quality instrument!!! Unfortunately I think these days there's as many "bad ones" out there as good on both the new & used markets so if you're going to buy one sight unseen you have to take some measures to protect yourself? At the very least ask lots of questions & try to buy from a trusted seller...
AustinBurrell
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I have always had so much more luck with a really good Epiphone than I have with my Gibsons. In my opinion, replacing the pickups and wiring in an Epiphone to match that of a Gibson gives you the same(if not better) instrument for a fraction of the price. To me, the quality control at Gibson is lackluster to say the least.
I have always had so much more luck with a really good Epiphone than I have with my Gibsons. In my opinion, replacing the pickups and wiring in an Epiphone to match that of a Gibson gives you the same(if not better) instrument for a fraction of the price. To me, the quality control at Gibson is lackluster to say the least.
Aceman
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And this is exactly the point - you SHOULD NOT even have to think about doing that.
A Les Paul should come with a bone nut, and something in the vein of a 59/Custom hybrid that would work well for mellow or hard rock in the bridge.
Pickups are of course, very very subjective. I get that people change - you obvious went through two sets. Still....
And this is exactly the point - you SHOULD NOT even have to think about doing that.
A Les Paul should come with a bone nut, and something in the vein of a 59/Custom hybrid that would work well for mellow or hard rock in the bridge.
Pickups are of course, very very subjective. I get that people change - you obvious went through two sets. Still....
Aceman
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Too many people with too much money and not enough sense. There is your reason right there. And based on Gibson economic status, I'd say there are not actually selling....
Too many people with too much money and not enough sense. There is your reason right there. And based on Gibson economic status, I'd say there are not actually selling....
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
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I currently have four Gibsons. My #1 is not able to be evaluated fairly. It is #1 for many reasons. The first, it was my first electric. I played it for probably 15 years before I ever got another. It is simply the sound and feel that I love and it has grown to be a part of me. It has been upgraded over the years to awesome tuners, and a Distortion, etc...
I have NEVER bought a Gibson in haste/GAS/lust or any other mode than careful consideration. Jaci is my #2 - and was bought because of the feel. After playing her for an hour or however long, and passing the "boobie" test (search for it), I got that one. I also have a GEM Studio, and my Frehley 016. #1, Jaci, and the Frehley are all exemplary models of the ultra playability that a Gibson should be. The sound, the feel, everything. Note that none have the stock pups. Distortion, SuperDistortions, and Duncan P-90's.
I agree - Gibson CAN be awesome. But for the price, every one of them should be amazeballs - they are not. But never be confused that the average Gibson kicks the @$$ of even a good Epi/Agile/whatever. Worth the price? No way. Great guitars, mostly.
#1 - Rocked out, played out, bled on, beered on, wore out, used and abused - all in the name of love for music. Distortion bridge, original T-Top neck. Nothing feels like it to me. Where this guitar is, that's where I call home.
Down to the three piece maple - which is an awesome LP neck IMO
Complete with Belt Buckle chambering to lighten Fromm 11.6 to 11.5lbs
Jaci - A pristine 1973 w/ PAF/Superdistortion. Feels just like a brand new #1. Tuners suck. I have vintage freely ones I may replace one of these days.
Christine - This guitar is as much art as an instrument. "Pristinely damaged" was the best quote. Plays amazing - as long as you like only SuperD bridge tones. Who doesn't?
This one is a great guitar - but not what the others are. Duncan Vintage Bridge in neck, Custom neck in Bridge. For the $750 I paid for it, fantastic guitar. For the $2500 it would cost today w/ original P100's, Pffft - no way!
I currently have four Gibsons. My #1 is not able to be evaluated fairly. It is #1 for many reasons. The first, it was my first electric. I played it for probably 15 years before I ever got another. It is simply the sound and feel that I love and it has grown to be a part of me. It has been upgraded over the years to awesome tuners, and a Distortion, etc...
I have NEVER bought a Gibson in haste/GAS/lust or any other mode than careful consideration. Jaci is my #2 - and was bought because of the feel. After playing her for an hour or however long, and passing the "boobie" test (search for it), I got that one. I also have a GEM Studio, and my Frehley 016. #1, Jaci, and the Frehley are all exemplary models of the ultra playability that a Gibson should be. The sound, the feel, everything. Note that none have the stock pups. Distortion, SuperDistortions, and Duncan P-90's.
I agree - Gibson CAN be awesome. But for the price, every one of them should be amazeballs - they are not. But never be confused that the average Gibson kicks the @$$ of even a good Epi/Agile/whatever. Worth the price? No way. Great guitars, mostly.
#1 - Rocked out, played out, bled on, beered on, wore out, used and abused - all in the name of love for music. Distortion bridge, original T-Top neck. Nothing feels like it to me. Where this guitar is, that's where I call home.
Down to the three piece maple - which is an awesome LP neck IMO
Complete with Belt Buckle chambering to lighten Fromm 11.6 to 11.5lbs
Jaci - A pristine 1973 w/ PAF/Superdistortion. Feels just like a brand new #1. Tuners suck. I have vintage freely ones I may replace one of these days.
Christine - This guitar is as much art as an instrument. "Pristinely damaged" was the best quote. Plays amazing - as long as you like only SuperD bridge tones. Who doesn't?
This one is a great guitar - but not what the others are. Duncan Vintage Bridge in neck, Custom neck in Bridge. For the $750 I paid for it, fantastic guitar. For the $2500 it would cost today w/ original P100's, Pffft - no way!
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