A440 or A432 tuning
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Huh, I heard that it was sped up after recording, and I always bought the idea although I guess it's just a rumor.
Spaghetti Bolo
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The option 'complete load of bollocks' appears to be missing.
80's_Thrash_Metal
Slightly_Glazed_Believer
I use the boss tuner phone app and you can adjust to whatever you want pretty easily.
It is really really close.
Spaghetti Bolo
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Yeah, that isn't a whole lot. It certainly would feel different, but not as much as tuning to Eb. Being that guitar frets are inherently out of tune anyway, I am sure some people can hear a big difference while others can't.
But, but, the cosmic vibrations of the universe within the human body something something.
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
I remember watching a guy do a comparison video on YT between 440/432 & something else (Six String Samurai I think it was)..Anyway, he played the same pieces of music w/ his guitar tuned to different pitches & then in the end "revealed" that he had mislabelled the clips on purpose to demonstrate that it was nothing more than the placebo effect at work.
But when I watched the video/listened to the clips honestly I thought the stuff he'd mislabelled as 440 Hz (was 432hz) actually sounded more pleasing to my ears than the stuff he'd labelled 432hz (actually 440hz) which was more jarring (not that I mind jarring
). So much for the placebo effect :lmao:
Having said that I'll still stick to 440 hz 'cause 432 is a PIA for too many reasons...
But when I watched the video/listened to the clips honestly I thought the stuff he'd mislabelled as 440 Hz (was 432hz) actually sounded more pleasing to my ears than the stuff he'd labelled 432hz (actually 440hz) which was more jarring (not that I mind jarring
). So much for the placebo effect :lmao:Having said that I'll still stick to 440 hz 'cause 432 is a PIA for too many reasons...
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Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
The intervals themselves don't change, but from a signals perspective they linear distance between notes does. If A =440hz, the A below it is 220hz lower. At A =432hz the A below it is 216hz lower. This is a near negligible difference, especially when you consider we don't hear linearly.
I think the biggest difference you would get would be the slightly "under tensioned" sound you would get from all your instruments being pitched down.
I'm surprised to see this posted... I have to deal with it constantly in North Carolina I was hoping the rest of the world was pretty much free of it.
Here, there is a belief amongst the Christian worship community that 432 is spiritually more holy or something like that.. as a result, I see a lot of train wrecks.. students come in to practice in 4:32 and it takes us a minute or two to figure out why everything's wonky with their tuner, or when I'm producing and recording, I've learned to start recession with is everybody on the same tuning standard?
As far as the actual timber, I think there's just too many variables to count. In classical orchestras, there were many experiments before 440 was standardized and it is true that you will get slightly different resonance in different instruments at different standards.
However just because the violin feels they're warmer down a couple of cents doesn't mean that the trombone isn't now a little muddier if you get my thinking...
Honestly, I think this is one of those Just Play Your Guitar moments where you can overthink anything... but in this case easily trainwreck a performance.
Here, there is a belief amongst the Christian worship community that 432 is spiritually more holy or something like that.. as a result, I see a lot of train wrecks.. students come in to practice in 4:32 and it takes us a minute or two to figure out why everything's wonky with their tuner, or when I'm producing and recording, I've learned to start recession with is everybody on the same tuning standard?
As far as the actual timber, I think there's just too many variables to count. In classical orchestras, there were many experiments before 440 was standardized and it is true that you will get slightly different resonance in different instruments at different standards.
However just because the violin feels they're warmer down a couple of cents doesn't mean that the trombone isn't now a little muddier if you get my thinking...
Honestly, I think this is one of those Just Play Your Guitar moments where you can overthink anything... but in this case easily trainwreck a performance.
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RanchManSandy
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432 is a multiple of 108, and if you know anything about the number 108 then yeah, it makes, a particular sort of, sense for people to associate similar things to 432. guitar, tho? 440 all the way
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
108 is the internal body temperature where your organs begin to shutdown.
RanchManSandy
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gee whiz, what happens to the body when it hits 432°(f)?
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
If my math is correct, the organs will have shut down by then
80's_Thrash_Metal
Slightly_Glazed_Believer
Another prevalent theory is that they tuned to a piano at the studio which was in 444.
