Adjusting a P90?

astrozombie

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any general tips? I was lent a cheapo guitar with them, i wanted to see what the p90s would be like.

I understand some of these pickups are mounted straight into the wood of the guitar?
 
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Adjusting a P-90 can often just be a PITA. Good luck.

You have two mounting screws (that may/may not) have functional springs, and the poles (which may/may not) adjst past the mounting screws if they are in the middle of the pup (vs Dog ear)
 
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are they dogear or soapbar? with soapbars, it's probably best to shim the with a thin piece of wood. dogears, i'm not sure how they work:dunno:
 
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Dogear covers screw directly into the top of the guitar (through the metal baseplate lugs). There is no end-to-end adjustment, only the polepiece screws. On some archtop guitars, the dogear cover rides on a foam/rubber pad.

Like Aceman says, soapbar P90s screw directly into the body through the pickup itself. On Gibsons, the screws tighten into a threaded metal insert. On my LP Jnr Spl, one of these had worked undone and had to be glued back into position.

On my PRS SE One, the soapbar screws directly into the wood.

Just to confuse matters, the P90s on a Squier Tele Custom II have the metal baseplate lugs like a dogear but have a soapbar cover and are suspended through the pickguard like a Fender pickup.
 
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With HB's being so easy to adjust, you'd think someone would have put more effort into P90 height adjustment. We can put a man on the moon, but...

Dog ears are easy, they sit in a tray that's attaches to the body. There's a decent amount of PU/wood contact. You can raise the PU height with special made plastic shims (which are grossly over-priced).

The soap bars I've seen all rest on foam rubber pads, and the PU holes are cut deep. I've never been thrilled with this method, it seems so lame. I use two different mounting modifications. The simplest way is to use springs between the PU & the wood. I cut a mormal HB spring in half (one half for each screw), and cut out a small section in the foam for it. Then I fill the old screw holes with toothpicks to give the screws a tight fit. I get some flexibility in PU height with the springs, and there's a little more vibration transfered from the wood.

The other method is the best, although it takes more time & work. I get a pack of wood shims from a hardware store, and use two or three in each PU slot to build a platform. The shims are angled, so you cut the piece that'll give the top a flat surface. I use wood glue & a couple screws to build the shim platform & attach it to the body. You have to file or cut a small channel in the top shim for the PU wire, so the PU can lay flat (which is very easy to do). I keep checking the height by putting a yardstick across the bridge & frets. Then I screw the PU firmly into the shims. Once this is in place, use the pole peices to fine-tune the height. This gives great wood-to-PU transfer of vibrations, and more sustain & low end. I did this on an old-style SG Special, which needed that. On an LP or 335, I use the screw method.
 
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dogears.

how could I forget these pickups are mounted straight into the wood?! :lmao: I feel like such an idiot. i was informed today that the guitar has some spacers underneath the pickups. I guess ill try adjusting the polepieces if the pickups need to be closer.
 
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dogears.

how could I forget these pickups are mounted straight into the wood?! :lmao: I feel like such an idiot. i was informed today that the guitar has some spacers underneath the pickups. I guess ill try adjusting the polepieces if the pickups need to be closer.

Basically that's how ya' do it on a P90. especially a dog-ear p90
What you have to remember, is the typical Gibson P90 (Jr. Special, etc)
we all grew up hearing and digging, was screwed on with dog-ears. The only adjustment was the pole pieces. The pickups were mounted onto the body, with no adjustment of overall pickkup height.
Leslie West did alright with 'em!
 
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Is there any reason they aren't made with baseplates that have tabs on them (like humbuckers or pickguard mounts)? Seems like it would solve some headaches.
 
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Is there any reason they aren't made with baseplates that have tabs on them (like humbuckers or pickguard mounts)? Seems like it would solve some headaches.

Dogear P90s have "tabs" on them. Soapbar P90s do not.

Astrozombie is writing about the metal-covered dogear P90s on an Epiphone Casino. Aceman is writing about soapbars on a Les Paul.

Fitting P90s with elevator screw "tabs" at either end into a solid body guitar would require either a pickguard (like the Squier Tele Custom II) or the sort of plastic PU surround ring known to 1970s Gibson staff and officiandos as "goof hiders" to hide the ugly gap that would otherwise be left at each end of the soapbar style pickup cover.

EDIT: Apologies to Aceman for mentioning this classic Norlin design feature.
 
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Another solution to adjusting a dogear is a small piece of memory foam 1/4" thick or less under the 'ears'...slightly longer screws may be necessary.
 
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I have a project I am stuck on for a bit as I have a Epi SG Jr. and wanted to go from dogear to Soapbar (EMG P81) in the bridge. The cavity to too shallow to work and I dread to attempt to route it out further.
 
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I just got a tele copy that looks exactly like this. Does the P90 look like it's mounted directly to the wood with no springs? I thought t the 2 screws for pickup height adjustment, no?

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Well, as the pickup is in the way you cannot tell what is below it. If you were to have taken the screws out instead of posting you would have known by now what the mounting was.
 
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Dogears need shims.
Soapbars can be adjusted by the two screws in the top, but the foam pad underneath is too dense for this...it might as well be a solid piece of wood.

It's an easy fix to remove this and replace it with a lighter density foam "insulation tape" that's about 3/4"-1" thick (you can get it at any auto parts store, Lowes, or Walmart, etc.

I've tried springs but it is difficult (sometimes next to impossible) to keep them in place while installing the pups.
 
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I just got a tele copy that looks exactly like this. Does the P90 look like it's mounted directly to the wood with no springs? I thought t the 2 screws for pickup height adjustment, no?

You, sir, have bumped a near-9-year-old thread to ask us a question that we can't answer, but that you can with, quite literally, five seconds of work.
 
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Dogears need shims.
Soapbars can be adjusted by the two screws in the top, but the foam pad underneath is too dense for this...it might as well be a solid piece of wood.

It's an easy fix to remove this and replace it with a lighter density foam "insulation tape" that's about 3/4"-1" thick (you can get it at any auto parts store, Lowes, or Walmart, etc.

I've tried springs but it is difficult (sometimes next to impossible) to keep them in place while installing the pups.
Use a small piece of scotch tape in the end of the screw to hold the springs in place.

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