Alnico II Pros in a nice Les Paul

Lewguitar

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After all these years I finally got a chance to really check a set out.

A customer brought me a Les Paul that he'd installed AII Pros in. Needed some fret work and a set up but mostly it had a bad hum that needed correcting. He'd made a mistake wiring it the first time and had spliced extra length onto the wires of both pickups and had neglected to extend the bare ground wire so he could connect it to the back of the pots.

I disassembled both pickups, separated the coils, removed the stock cable, and installed new single conductor shielded cable like you'd find on a vintage paf and put it all back together.

Did most of my playing through my '66 blackface Deluxe Reverb with the 25 watt Celestion G12 Silver Alnico. No distortion, overdrive or boost pedals.

Wish I still had a guitar with some Pearly Gates so I could compare them but the Alnico II Pros strike me as being somewhat similar.

The bridge pickup has a nice grainy texture to the treble. Very easy on the ears.

The neck pickup has a nice clarity to it that again, reminds of the PGn. Bell-like, full and clear, but with that same textured quality I hear from the bridge AII Pro.

I would say that the lows are not as spongey as with some alnico 2 humbuckers, and that the neck & bridge pickups seem very well balanced volume wise.

I played the guitar before working on it and liked what I heard and it came to me with a .047 cap on each tone control. I changed those to .02 caps and it was interesting to hear the difference.

When I rolled the tone control down with the .047 caps the treble rolled off until the tone got quite dull and wooly. After removing the .047 caps and replacing them with .02 caps the tone had more of a plucky "OW" quality to it when I'd turn the tone control down. I like that vowel like "OW" sound better.

Makes me wonder why these pickups are not more popular because I could certainly gig with them and have a good time.

I was never a Guns N Roses or Slash fan so I was never drawn to check them out before. But they strike me as being the logical pickup to recommend if a player has tried the Pearly Gates model and found them to be to trebley or "bright" for his or her tastes.

Anyone else have more experience with the Alnico II Pros? They're new to me so I'd like to get some feedback from you all.

Thanks!
 
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They are the unsung heroes of the SD line. 95 percent of what a Seth or PG gives you, but at a lower price, because they are not "signature" model pickups.
 
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I've always liked the A2Ps. I have the Slash set in my main guitar right now. They are basically the APH set with some extra mojo. They are a great low output pickup that just work for so many things.
 
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Always reminded me of the pickups that came after PAF's and before T-Tops...those 60's Pat # pickups.

Cool pickups.

More air and more open sounding than a PAF due to having less windings but still in the PAF/vintage humbucker ballpark.
 
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" But they strike me as being the logical pickup to recommend if a player has tried the Pearly Gates model and found them to be to trebley or "bright" for his or her tastes. "



VERY WELL SAID !

I feel exactly the same about the A2P's.
 
Re: Alnico II Pros in a nice Les Paul

Always reminded me of the pickups that came after PAF's and before T-Tops...those 60's Pat # pickups.

Cool pickups.

More air and more open sounding than a PAF due to having less windings but still in the PAF/vintage humbucker ballpark.

So, if the A2P's are more open sounding, does that mean the Seth's crunch easier/faster than the A2P's ?
 
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I think that they sound great even in a crappy guitar.
 
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I have a set of A2P's and really like them. One of Duncan's best, and they make a nicely matched set. The bridge is rich and full, the neck has a sharp high-end. To me, both bridge and neck sound better than PG's (which to my ears, have a brighter bridge and warmer neck, not what I care for, but some guys like that).
 
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This guitar came to me with the tone controls connected 50's style. Gave the pickups a nice grainy sizzle.

I tried this guitar with the tone capacitor connected 50's style to the output of the volume control...and also with it connected to the input of the volume control.

There was very noticeable difference between the two methods.

I feel that connecting the tone control at the input of the volume control (which is not the 50's mod) thickened and warmed up the overall tone.

It did lose some of that grainy textured sizzle that I initially liked so much, but overall the guitar now has a stronger and fatter tone.

It doesn't clean up quite as completely when I turn the volume control down but it gets a better rock tone and responds to picking dynamics better. Better pinch harmonics and squeels.

I'm very happy with the way it turned out.
 
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I have a set of A2P's and really like them. One of Duncan's best, and they make a nicely matched set. The bridge is rich and full, the neck has a sharp high-end. To me, both bridge and neck sound better than PG's (which to my ears, have a brighter bridge and warmer neck, not what I care for, but some guys like that).


W O W . . . the PG neck is 'warmer' than the A2P neck ?
 
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