Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

[tacobender5000]

I had the idea to swap my EMG humbuckers in my schecter 7 string (probably 707s) with the Alpha/Omega pair. Bought it. Looked at installing it and realized that the ears on the Alpha Omegas don't fit in the humbucker cavity. Not only that, but it's 2 screw holes and not 4.

Is there a way to mount these without carving into my guitar or should / can I use my dremel to make little slots for the ears? I believe the model is schecter hellraiser c-7 (white version).

I realize that the schecter EMGs are active as well, but I'm assuming it won't be too hard to "convert" to passive.

--I'd like to add that I spent a lot of time trying to Google this and didn't find any answers. Just more questions.

 

[Adieu]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

Which kind of EMGs, cavity mounted soap bars like this?

 

[Adieu]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

Im afraid I don't understand what 4 holes youre talking about.

Do your alpha and omega look like this?

Is it just the ears struggling to squeeze through into the cavity by a couple mm, or worse? If there's no extra overhang to cut off the ears.... you COULD try to invisibly scrape/dremel/whatever a bit of wiggle room at the bottom of the cavity. Or even just attempt to bend the legs in...maybe? Idk it's all rather inelegant

Problem is, pickups are supposed to be straight and height adjustable. Which sort of makes a case for instead scoring some 7 string pickup rings, dremel or scrape or drill or whatever to give yourself plenty of space, and install them suspended from the pickup rings like a regular humbucker instead of direct mount like a 707 soapbar

Nice and neat.

(btw it's not just you and your duncans, even dimarzio 7's with their smaller ears are a hard squeeze into a 707 soapbar rout)

PS check that the pickup ring fits over the EMG first in case you want to go back

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

This is the item you need for the Schecter C-7: [URL="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seymour-Duncan-Mark-Holcomb-Alpha-Omega-7-String-Soapbar-Guitar-Pickup-Set/153000452339]CLICK HERE[/URL]


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[bloughlin16]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

This is the item you need for the Schecter C-7: [URL="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seymour-Duncan-Mark-Holcomb-Alpha-Omega-7-String-Soapbar-Guitar-Pickup-Set/153000452339]CLICK HERE[/URL]


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This. You're also going to need new pots (500k is my recommendation) if you haven't bought them already.

 

[tacobender5000]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

This. You're also going to need new pots (500k is my recommendation) if you haven't bought them already.

Oh wow. Why didn't I realize that they made these... Looks like my best bet is to sell these and find the soap bars.

So the Schecter I have doesn't have 500Ks then?

In response to the screw question earlier... I remembered the soap bars in the C-7 to have 4 corner screws rather than the two middle ones that I see in the pictures I looked up. I'll have to double check. Either way... if my only option is the 2-screw, then I just make a new screw hole in the cavity, which is way less of an issue than I was otherwise thinking.

Thanks for the help

 

[Adieu]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

Oh wow. Why didn't I realize that they made these... Looks like my best bet is to sell these and find the soap bars.

So the Schecter I have doesn't have 500Ks then?

In response to the screw question earlier... I remembered the soap bars in the C-7 to have 4 corner screws rather than the two middle ones that I see in the pictures I looked up. I'll have to double check. Either way... if my only option is the 2-screw, then I just make a new screw hole in the cavity, which is way less of an issue than I was otherwise thinking.

Thanks for the help

Unless your EMGs are hz707's (passive, no battery), you have 10, 25, or 50k "active pickup value" pots. And what you need are 300k, 500k, or 1 meg "passive pickup value" pots (probably best 500k)

4 screw mount...??? not EMGs. Only ever seen that in Ibanez 5string bass soapbars (same dimensions as 7 string guitar).

Btw, fitment aint guaranteed, people have struggled fitting duncan passive mount buckers into active mount 7 string routs before. Thats the whole reason they sell em in a soapbar retrofit version

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

Yes, EMGs use completely different pot values than passives. You'll have to change the wiring out for sure.

If you have the "soapbar" style housings, then they will definitely only have 2 screws.

 

[tacobender5000]

Re: Alpha / Omega Sizing Issue

Thanks guys. Now my issue is finding the soapbar style for a decent price. $300... I might be better off buying another cheap Legator. My multiscale 7/8 strings from them are great.