Amp modeler choice (again)?

Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

MBreinin said:
I have owned a V-Amp Pro for a year now and I do not agree with those who have been putting it down. I think there are indeed alot of very usable guitar tones in it. Also, it is very easy to use and very affordable. I used it almost daily as a headphone amp, and I also run it through the effects return of an old Peavey Studio Pro 112 and it really shines in that environement as well. I think for $150, you can't go wrong.

The Modern High gain model is absolutely killer...especially with the 2x12 Cab model, #10.

Mike

I'd be interested in hearing what headphones you use with your V-Amp Pro?

I've tried like hell to like mine with headphones but it just lacks the sound and tone I'm looking for; all the patches seem really muddy and there's never enough mids and highs for my ears.

The only working editor for the Mac is a 3rd party product that's good, but it's really nowhere near as full-featured as the ones for the POD.
 
Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

well the company that made the J-Station, Johnson, is/was a division of digitech, so the company is still there, they just shut down that part of it. Digitech has helped me with any questions about mine.
 
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Mincer said:
well the company that made the J-Station, Johnson, is/was a division of digitech, so the company is still there, they just shut down that part of it. Digitech has helped me with any questions about mine.


you're making it hard to dismiss the j-station..........:fingersx:
 
Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

Actually - which has the best soldano model? That is the sound i really want.

jeff
 
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You might not want to hear this but... I have a couple of great Soldano patches for the J-Station. While none of the amps are supposed to be a Soldano, the ones off the online user library sound really close.

There are a couple patches up there with sound samples (Soldano L and R). The other Soldano patches are better IMO, but these will give you an idea of what the J-Station can do. Through a stereo PA, these sound monsterous!
 
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I have discovered that you have to remember that these are amp models. They really don't have the all end answer to tone. With this thought in mind, I use Line 6 Pod Pro, and Pod v2 along with my analog distortion/overdrives (SD-1, DS-1, TS9, 250 preamp and currently 308 preamp). Remember if you buy a amp modeler, that if you call up a Plexi model, that's what you get, a Plexi model, no distortion as they really aren't noted as being a distortion amp so you have to "add" to it via analog. The Chours/Flange/Delays aren't the greatest, but they are passable. I have used the distortion that is built into the Pod via the large floorboard and it really doesn't work for me.

Having said that, I would recommend getting a POD v 2, keep any analog pedals you may have and have at it. (btw the Soldano model on the POD v 2 is the "Modern HiGain" model)
 
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Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

The SLO-100 model is one of my favourites on the PODxt. I mostly stick with the following:

Fender '59 Bassman
Fender '63 Deluxe
Fender '65 Twin Reverb
Matchless Chieftain
Marshall Plexi, jumpered
Marshall Plexi, Variac'd
Soldano SLO-100

There are other excellent models on there, but those are the ones I use most. It's a great tool, especially for practice and recording.
 
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Hi all -
Thanks so far once again for all your advice.
Effects are not a big thing for me, just some reverb and i'm a happy camper.
As for the amp models - really the soldano and a nice clean sound (maybe a Roland JC, or soemthing along the lines of a fender). A nice acoustic sound would be nice too.
So looking really hard at the J-station, and Zoom G2. I will try out the later today and see if it works for me. Also looking at the V-amp2 still just b/c it is inexpensive. The PODxT i think is a bit high for me, would rather settle on a pod2.

jeff
 
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ratherdashing said:
The SLO-100 model is one of my favourites on the PODxt. I mostly stick with the following:

Fender '59 Bassman
Fender '63 Deluxe
Fender '65 Twin Reverb
Matchless Chieftain
Marshall Plexi, jumpered
Marshall Plexi, Variac'd
Soldano SLO-100

There are other excellent models on there, but those are the ones I use most. It's a great tool, especially for practice and recording.

The Plexi is the one that stopped me dead in my tracks. When I was messing around with patches I'd downloaded I found one that used the Plexi and I started tinkering with it until I had a Hendrix sound that just knocked my socks off. It's responsive to the volume on the guitar and all the little nuances with that I wasn't expecting.

If it were a one-trick pony and that was its only trick I still might have pulled the trigger on it!
 
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Over the years I have used Zoom, then the J-Station, then a PodXT, then a PODXT Live with a Variax 500. The Variax kind of died in early January and I have been trying to reinstall the firmware and flash since then so I can sell it. I might have to bring it to a $95/hour repair center in Manhattan to fix it though since I am not having any luck and customer service at Line 6 has no further suggestions. That is actually why I joined here since I will be looking to get Seymour Duncans in my next guitar.
 
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Snouter said:
Over the years I have used Zoom, then the J-Station, then a PodXT, then a PODXT Live with a Variax 500. The Variax kind of died in early January and I have been trying to reinstall the firmware and flash since then so I can sell it. I might have to bring it to a $95/hour repair center in Manhattan to fix it though since I am not having any luck and customer service at Line 6 has no further suggestions. That is actually why I joined here since I will be looking to get Seymour Duncans in my next guitar.


How did the j-station fair against the podxt? Was it worth the extra money for the podxt?

Sorry I can't help you with Variax problem. :dunno:

jeff
 
Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

Jeff, the J-Station is nice. I had another Digi-Tech product that was pretty good too that I sold on ebay like the other previous stuff I used.

IMHO, if you want to maximize what your guitar is capable of doing, I would go with the PodXT. You may want to check with your local Guitar Center to see if you can compete in the Guitarmageddon that starts in a couple weeks and get the 10% discount card (and t-shirt). Double check to make sure the 10% discount applies to Line 6 products. When I got my PodXT, they knocked 10%, but after I sold it and went to buy a PodXT Live (adds an customizable expression pedal and Variax connectivity), they claimed they could throw in some strings, but cannot lower the price on it.
 
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The J-Station is a killer unit. I never use the effects. Just the modelling. As for this one issue:

Skarekrough said:
I had a J-Station for awhile and really liked the sounds it got. I eventually sold it because the MIDI on it didn't work and thusly the software editor was useless to me.

The MIDI port on the back doubles as a footswitch port. The label for the switch to select the function is the worst designed label in the history of electronics. The MIDI position appears to be the footswitch position and vice-versa. Everyone messes this up. :)

Get a "J".

Artie
 
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ArtieToo said:
The J-Station is a killer unit. I never use the effects. Just the modelling. As for this one issue:



The MIDI port on the back doubles as a footswitch port. The label for the switch to select the function is the worst designed label in the history of electronics. The MIDI position appears to be the footswitch position and vice-versa. Everyone messes this up. :)

Get a "J".

Artie

Trust me....I tried both positions....spent a solid month fighting with the thing until I unloaded it on the 'bay.
 
Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

The V-Amp Pro has an excellent Soldano model, it is the Modern High Gain model. That is a very versatile tone generator and I use it for everything from early Van Halen to Sykes era Whitesnake.

There was a guy who had recorded a ton of stuff with his V-Amp 2 and had sound clips, I am going to dig around and see if I can find them.

For distortion, the consensus is generally that the V-Amp is superior. Of course, that is totally subjective. I can tell you that I have been very satisfied with mine. The only tone I have not been able to dial up to my ultimate satisfaction is a really warm clean tone. But hey, this is a digital pre-amp, not a tube amp. I have gotten close, but I always have to add a bit of dirt to warm it up.

To be honest, I have always used cheapo headphones with mine, and I never had a problem. However, some headphones are indeed darker than others. I would love to run a really nice set and see what that sounded like.

The best setup I had was when I was running mine in stereo out into the loops of the Studio Pro 112 and a Tech-21 TM-60. The TM, with its transparent speaker, was a great balance to the Studio Pro, which tends to color the sound a bit toward bass.

If you get a V-Amp, get a Pro, don't get the plastic job. There is a big difference in quality and durability.

Mike
 
Re: Amp modeler choice (again)?

I've used both Behringer and Line 6 products myself (not counting in-store noodling with stuff from Korg and Johnson). I've found very cool sounds in all of them, but Line 6 has given me fewer moments of knowing what I wanted and not quite being able to get there.
 
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