Another Try - This Time Better

[barbarianbrute]

alright, here it is new and improved. 1/2 the gain i had before, flattened eq (at 12 o'clock), master vol down and channel vol up.

i think the tone was much better this time, but the recorder still picked up my actual guitar strings being struck. perhaps this was the "fizzy" sound people seemed to pick up on last time. it is apparent in these recordings, but i think they've improved quite a bit. what do you guys think?

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=756092

still got the blues samples 1, 2, 3

 

[Studiobuddy]

Re: Another Try - This Time Better

wut amp did u use

 

[Smilemon]

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Dime all the tone controls, turn the master up until it starts to get chimey, then crank the preamps a bit more, leave the guitar cranked all the way and don't mess with your tone knob for a bit. It will be totally loud at first, but you can lower the master once you get the tone dialed a bit. I'm serious about the tone knobs though.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

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The tone is better, but you should recorded with midi keyboards or something so that it is easy to stay in tune with all those bends.

 

[Low_fidelity2100]

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i think the tone was much better this time, but the recorder still picked up my actual guitar strings being struck.

If your mic can actually pick up you hitting the strings of your guitar, then your amp Is not anywhere near loud enough.

The stuff in bold is a LARGE part of why your tone is fizzy on these clips. Turn your amp up!!! Theres no point in having a 100 watt marshall stack if your not gonna turn it up past 2.

 

[Hot _Grits]

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What are you planning on using this amp for?

Do you gig? -or rehearse with a loud drummer in a decent sized-room?

-it's a 100w marshall. That's a large club/theatre rig. For home recording, you're about 95w overpowered.

 

[Rich_T]

Re: Another Try - This Time Better

What are you planning on using this amp for?

Do you gig? -or rehearse with a loud drummer in a decent sized-room?

-it's a 100w marshall. That's a large club/theatre rig. For home recording, you're about 95w overpowered.

Agreed. Tube amps need their master volume up high to sound best. I've got a 50 watt Marshall half stack, it is an awesome amp, but basically useless at home. I'm looking for a low wattage home recording/practice amp at the moment so that I can get useable tones at manageable volumes.

That was an improvement on the last clips though, I must say.

Lo_Fi was also right in saying that you aren't recording loud enough, those strings being struck aren't helping the tone at all.

 

[barbarianbrute]

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it was definitely louder than bedroom level, but i was sitting right next to it. i have all my equipment in a closet with a stool where i do all my practice. even with it pretty loud, it still picks up me striking the strings because i'm so close to it. you're right though, it wasn't much louder than before. the difference is that i lowered teh master vol and cranked the channel vol. hmmm, i wonder if i got that backwards... time to consult the manual :cussing:

well at least it was an improvement. one step at a time. the next time i'm going to record with my sennheiser mic and see what happens

 

[scottish]

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a decent recording mike should be very directional. do you have it pointing at the amp or sideways with the amp? if its not pointing directly at it then try that and you should lose the strings.

as mentioned before, if you are playing with a tube amp and using pedals for distortion then i would try having your channel volume set lower, your master higher, and then distort it with your pedals. thats my set up anyways. i play through a fender and i have the channel set super clean and use pedals for all distortion and keep the master volume at a good level.

sounds better than last time though, so you are def headed in the right direction

 

[barbarianbrute]

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:smack:thanks, i'm going to try that. you're also right about the mic direction. i had it just sitting in front of hte amp and not pointing at it directly... i'm such a retard. i figured placing a mic anywhere in front of a moderately loud amp should do the trick, but i didn't really know the effect of not facing it directly towards.

in fact, just last night i read the little manual that came with my sennheiser mic and got some pretty good information on mic placement and stuff. i'll try again, but this time it's going to get some good reviews. thanks guys.

 

[lex666]

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:smack:thanks, i'm going to try that. you're also right about the mic direction. i had it just sitting in front of hte amp and not pointing at it directly... i'm such a retard. i figured placing a mic anywhere in front of a moderately loud amp should do the trick, but i didn't really know the effect of not facing it directly towards.

in fact, just last night i read the little manual that came with my sennheiser mic and got some pretty good information on mic placement and stuff. i'll try again, but this time it's going to get some good reviews. thanks guys.

Mic placement is eveything. Especially if your room is small, you will have sound reflections bouncing off each wall. Try experimenting with different mic placements.

Think to yourself, WWJPD? :?:

 

[ErikH]

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Yep, get the mic up on a speaker. Experiment with the placement to find what sounds good to you. Get some more volume going there too, it won't take much more.

Of the 3 up there, the first one sounded best to me. Much much better than the other clips.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

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Although you are close to it, would it be possible for you to face the other way when playing? I find this helps.

Perhaps you could close the closet door (leaving enough room for the cable), and then stand outside the closet whilst you play (with the amp/mic remaining in the closet)?

I've yet to record and post here, but when I practice with attenuated AOR to a recorded part playing through my speakers from a stereo system I stand in the corridor, while the stereo and a half stack are in the room, a much better perspective of how things really "mix"

 

[ratherdashing]

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Reading this thread makes me feel pretty good about recording through a Pod XT.

I agree on most of these points, especially mic placement. Also, what is your mic plugged into (preamp, mixer, something else)?

Tone is definitely better than last time though.