Any Drawbacks Using a Humbucker For Middle Pickup in a Strat?

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HSS guys that use stacked singles have always had a humbucker in the middle. : )
 
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Is PT using a super distortion on his LP?
 
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I have never played a three HB guitar. I can see were there would be a difference between using a single size HB in the middle as apposed to a full size, do to the narrower sensing window of the single size.
I haven't seen any pics of Pete with that guitar before. Looks like a couple of minis and a full size. What's up with the extra two switches, any one know?
 
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Have you ever taken into consideration that what works or doesn't work for you might be different for someone else? I will give Peter Frampton and Pete Townshend your feedback just incase they were having trouble dialing in a good tone.

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Notice where Frampton's picking hand is. That's the only reason I couldn't live with a three humbucker guitar. That middle pickup gets in the way of my hand and my pick. Other than that, I like the way they sound, especially when the middle and bridge humbucker are combined.
 
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Is PT using a super distortion on his LP?

I have never played a three HB guitar. I can see were there would be a difference between using a single size HB in the middle as apposed to a full size, do to the narrower sensing window of the single size.
I haven't seen any pics of Pete with that guitar before. Looks like a couple of minis and a full size. What's up with the extra two switches, any one know?

In 1976, he began using Deluxes with the following modifications (Note: early-1976 models are prototypes, most unnumbered, but some with Letraset stickers and some with handwritten stickers; the final collection, with numbered stickers and white surrounds on the middle-position pickup, began use around August 1976):

DiMarzio Dual Sound humbucker pickup in middle position:
Early 1976, prototype models, with black surrounds.
Beginning August 1976, with white surrounds.

Two additional switches (only one on most prototype models): a two-way coil-tap for the Dual Sound, the other a three-way pickup selector (Dual Sound on/off or all three pickups on).
Control cavities enlarged to house extra switches with a larger custom-made backplate.
Neck at body joint shaved down.
Alan Rogan’s custom straplock system.
Specially built metal jack plates replace the stock plastic jack plate.
Grover tuners.
Gibson 340 Sonomatic .012 strings (.012, .016, .016 or .018 for G, .032, .044, .056).
Truss rod cover usually removed.

At least one guitar in 1976 had its pickups disassembled and the parts coated and sealed in resin to reduce hum and undesirable microphonics.
For 1976, Pete had nine guitars for roadwork, maintained by Alan Rogan and set up for each performance. Pete would select six guitars for the main instruments, with the others for backup. The Gibson 340 Sonomatic strings were changed every set on the primary stage instrument.
 
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Notice where Frampton's picking hand is. That's the only reason I couldn't live with a three humbucker guitar. That middle pickup gets in the way of my hand and my pick. Other than that, I like the way they sound, especially when the middle and bridge humbucker are combined.

That's a problem I have with Three pickup guitars in general. I have a really heavy picking hand and unless I'm doing something really delicate, I dig in. But I could probably learn to not pick so hard for everything.
 
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Have you ever taken into consideration that what works or doesn't work for you might be different for someone else? I will give Peter Frampton and Pete Townshend your feedback just incase they were having trouble dialing in a good tone.

Works the same way with your advice too, not just for advice you don't agree with.

In the thread I referrenced (above), someone had a quote from Pete that said he really didn't use the middle HB much. As I said, having, and actually using, a middle HB are two different things. In Pete's career, how many years has an HHH been his main guitar?
 
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Frampton. Frehley. Townshend. Phineas.

All you need to know.



Than again, whoever said what works for some doesn't work for others has a good point. That's also why there are different pickup models and different pickup companies. Too many people have to make it a right and a wrong issue when it's all just a matter of preference.


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which sc hb do u guys like in the middle?
 
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Works the same way with your advice too, not just for advice you don't agree with.

My advice in general is to tell people what works for me not that their setup is flawed, won't work or will be a disappointment.

Middle HB's are a big disappointment for most players, which is why almost no one besides Gibson and Epiphone offer any HHH models, and then mostly for 'historic' reasons.

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Doesn't work for me personally. When it comes to cleans, I'm all about single coils or HH with coil tapping (inner coil of each) to get a nice crystalline sound somewhere between the middle and neck. Not much use for HHH to me with distortion either, but to each his own.
 
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That may be, but for over 60 years HHH guitars have yet to gain popularity, and have been an insignificant part of the market, whereas HSS and HSH have been huge. The numbers speak for themselves. Most players want nothing to do with HHH's. They're as popular as varitone switches. Both looked good on paper in the 1950's, but bombed in the real world.

EMG's are huge too. So is lil wayne. Point invalid.
 
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One glaring reason a 3rd hb might not have caught on is the extra cost and labor. A single coil is easier to rout, cheaper to buy and easier to install. I remember buddy blaze building a few of these guys
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Not to go off topic, but thats a nice amp and cab. I can see the Peavey name, but what amp/cab is that? Very sweet. (Nice axe too.) :)

It's a JSX. I built the enclosures.
 
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One glaring reason a 3rd hb might not have caught on is the extra cost and labor. A single coil is easier to rout, cheaper to buy and easier to install.

The difference in manufacturing cost between a SC and a HB is a few dollars, so that's not a factor except on entry-level guitars. It's based on lack of demand. The reason only a handful of HHH models are made is because they're a tough sell tone-wise, plus many players have a hard time picking with them. Not much appeal. Like any guitar model, there's always a few outstanding players that can do great things with them, but I don't think any of us here on this thread are in that category.
 
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is that 9 coils? do the strings vibrate or does the magnets dampen them out
 
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The difference in manufacturing cost between a SC and a HB is a few dollars, so that's not a factor except on entry-level guitars. It's based on lack of demand. The reason only a handful of HHH models are made is because they're a tough sell tone-wise, plus many players have a hard time picking with them. Not much appeal. Like any guitar model, there's always a few outstanding players that can do great things with them, but I don't think any of us here on this thread are in that category.

EVERYTHING is a factor in guitar craft. On entry and expert level instruments, and an extra humbucker is quite an investment in the long run. Plus we aren't talking about humbuckers anyway. The OP was asking about a middle humbucker in a strat, with 25.5in scale and vintage single coils in the neck and bridge. There's plenty of space for picking, the humbucker's height may be adjusted, etc. It's a completely different ball game.
 
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