any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

Re: any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

I have two friends from my high school that both have avatar cabs (and both played in the same band hehe). One used an Egnater head, and the other used a Budda head and they both sounded very nice. Pretty sure they both had the Traditional 212s with 1 V30 and 1 G12H30. They looked pretty cool and the quality looked great too. Both players loved the cabs and I've only heard good things about them online.
 
Re: any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

gunny47: That sounds like what I want to try. I have an Orange cab and I've always used v30's but I REALLY want to try a mixed set.

TGWIF: they really do look like a good deal. I guess I'm just curious on the actual sound compared to an orange or mesa.
 
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I've got 2 and have no complaints. A traditional 2x12 and a Vintage 4x12. Picked them both up for basically dirt on Craigslist. The vintage models sound close to the Mesa Recto cabs. They're almost the same dimensions, just a tad smaller. It's really hard to say for me. My Recto cab has V30's in it and the Avatar has Eminence made Carvin Greenback clones in it. So can't really give a good comparison. Build quality on the Avatar's is just as good as any other quality cab I've owned.
 
Re: any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

gunny47: That sounds like what I want to try. I have an Orange cab and I've always used v30's but I REALLY want to try a mixed set.

TGWIF: they really do look like a good deal. I guess I'm just curious on the actual sound compared to an orange or mesa.

I've yet to find another cab that sounds as big as an old Orange cab...even the new ones are not there.

Avatar cabs are solid, well made and good sounding cabs however if you want the sound of an Orange, Mesa, Bogner or whatever your best bet is to buy that cab.
 
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I have a 2x12 with a V30 and G12H30. I run a '64 Bandmaster through it, sounds great. I play live several times amonth, and record with it too. I think it's a great cab, and might eventually get a 1x12 with an Alnico Gold for a smaller alternative.
 
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i have an oldish orange 412 that sounds good but its a lot to haul around.

I guess I could get a vintage 212 with different speakers and just run both at the same time! It would sound cool but that's a hell of a lot of amp to set up every night.

As long as the 212 doesn't result in a huge lack of low end I'd like to make the switch. The Electra Dyne head has excellent low end too.
 
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Dunno what you mean by oldish but that aside going from a 4x12 to a 2x12 will result in less low end...

Now, depending on speakers you can make up some of it and you might be able to find a set up you really like but as a rule almost any 4x12 will be bigger and fuller sounding than almost any 2x12.
 
Re: any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

yeah, I'm sorry. I completely forgot to mention that I've been running my ED head through my buddy's orange 212, which was what convinced me to explore the 212 option. it sounds pretty huge.
 
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I have an Avatar Partial Open Back Traditional 2x12 with a V30 & G12H30. It measures

28.5W x 21H x 12D and weighs a little over 50lbs. It sounds Massive, with the Partial

Open Back you get more Mids that fill the room and has a more spatial quality. However

if you want bigger and more focused Bass Response I would go Closed Back. In fact

Avatar makes a Panel for an additional $15 that you can install on their Partial Open

Back Cabs to make it a Closed Back....I'm thinking of ordering it for sh!ts n giggles.

If you dig the Orange 2x12, Avatar's biggest 2x12 Cab is the Contemporary Series

which measure in at 31W x 21H x 15D and weigh 65lbs, go closed back on that SOB and

I would bet it rivals any 2x12 on the market and would give some 4x12's a run for the

money!
 
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I would bet it rivals any 2x12 on the market

Whoa..hey buddy, lets not get carried away. I understand you love your Avatar cabinet, and thats cool..The Avatar cabinet is a solid budget cabinet, but a Bogner or Cornford , probably an Orange too, Engl and maybe Dr .Z ,would blow it to smithereens.
 
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Whoa..hey buddy, lets not get carried away. I understand you love your Avatar cabinet, and thats cool..The Avatar cabinet is a solid budget cabinet, but a Bogner or Cornford , probably an Orange too, Engl and maybe Dr .Z ,would blow it to smithereens.

There's only so many ways to build a cab Jerry. Buy saying that, you're implying that the name badge on it makes it sound better. A lot of these places are using the same dimensions and materials as the other guy, so there is literally no difference in them besides the name badge.
 
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There's only so many ways to build a cab Jerry. Buy saying that, you're implying that the name badge on it makes it sound better. A lot of these places are using the same dimensions and materials as the other guy, so there is literally no difference in them besides the name badge.

Ive done some reading on this . In cabinets, you are really getting waht you pay for..the Bogners, Cornfords, Engls maybe, and others are really are constructed and engineered to be heads and tails above a budget cabinet like Avatar.
Mesa to a lesser extent.
 
Re: any good feedback on Avatar cabs?

Ive done some reading on this . In cabinets, you are really getting waht you pay for..the Bogners, Cornfords, Engls maybe, and others are really are constructed and engineered to be heads and tails above a budget cabinet like Avatar.
Mesa to a lesser extent.

I'm going to agree and disagree at the same time. When you have places like Bogner, Cornford, Engl....even Mesa. They are designing their cabs around certain speakers for their amplifiers to achieve what they think is the best possible result. There in lies the problem. Tone, sound, etc... is subjective and differs among everyone.

It's the same with any kind of speakers really. Home audio, car audio, studio monitors. They have drivers with a given set of parameters, then they build a cabinet around those parameters to get what they think is the best possible result. Again, that is up debate among different people and their likes and dislikes.

What I'm saying is this. If you take a Bogner or whatever cabs specs and reproduce it using the same materials and drives, it's not going to sound any different than the high dollar Bogner cab. More often than not, you're paying for the name badge on the cabinet.

And there's no shame in that. I'm vain in that regard as well. I like my cabs to match my amplifiers. Are there cheaper options for virtually the same thing. Yup probably. Just have to look around for them. Avatar patterns their designs after 3 different "vintage" cab designs. I can't think for the life of me what they are, but I do know one is the Marshall style.

When/If I ever buy a Bogner amp, I don't know if I can cough up that kind of coin for a cabinet. Even used, they're pushing $800+. You can not sit there and tell me there is $800+ worth of plywood and speakers in there.
 
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Holy s***... I wish the wouldn't have made think about getting a Bogner 212. they look exactly like the Avatar I want, but are apparently the best sounding cabs ever.

I don't think I can afford one but I bet they rip like one of God's farts...
 
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I like matching cabs and cabs with exact airspace designed to match the speaker because each speaker has a diff airspace requirement, so...
 
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