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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
That LP is lookin' good!
That LP is lookin' good!
Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
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Chocklit_Thunda
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
Cool I was just thinking drawer sliders would be a solution. I take it there isn't a risk of it bouncing upward? It seems like it's just the weight of the router keeping it down?
BTW that les paul body looks great! Very clean!
Cool I was just thinking drawer sliders would be a solution. I take it there isn't a risk of it bouncing upward? It seems like it's just the weight of the router keeping it down?
BTW that les paul body looks great! Very clean!
Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
The jig stays down....gravity still sucks!!
You could counterweight it, but its beauty is in it following the top contour to cut the same depth throughout.
You have to be careful when you engage the body, but I guess that is the same with any routing task. Plenty of people have cut too much or had the bit slip at an inopportune time - the binding is a bad time to have these things happen as there is no more top sanding to be down.
Many thanks for the encouragement....this is the build thread as far as its gone
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/321696-lefty-double-build-59-54-junior.html
The jig stays down....gravity still sucks!!
You could counterweight it, but its beauty is in it following the top contour to cut the same depth throughout.
You have to be careful when you engage the body, but I guess that is the same with any routing task. Plenty of people have cut too much or had the bit slip at an inopportune time - the binding is a bad time to have these things happen as there is no more top sanding to be down.
Many thanks for the encouragement....this is the build thread as far as its gone
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/321696-lefty-double-build-59-54-junior.html
treyhaislip
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
To each his/her own...I personally only care for binding on acoustics
To each his/her own...I personally only care for binding on acoustics
Chocklit_Thunda
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Thanks for all the advice! This is on my to do list
And very nice build thread! I still have to man up and try a LP or something similar
Thanks for all the advice! This is on my to do list
And very nice build thread! I still have to man up and try a LP or something similar
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
Fender Japan Aerodynes! http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/ast.html I have a lot of them, they're not too expensive.
I prefer the radiused top to the flat top in the case of Strats, it sort of pushes it in the direction of a other bound carved top guitars. Flat top with binding works with the Tele, but it seems a little extreme with a Strat. The only downside is that I can detect a slight difference in the body resonance for having the extra wood removed.
Fender Japan Aerodynes! http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/ast.html I have a lot of them, they're not too expensive.
I prefer the radiused top to the flat top in the case of Strats, it sort of pushes it in the direction of a other bound carved top guitars. Flat top with binding works with the Tele, but it seems a little extreme with a Strat. The only downside is that I can detect a slight difference in the body resonance for having the extra wood removed.
Edgecrusher
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Archer250
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Meh. IMO, two bodies resonate differently already.
Meh. IMO, two bodies resonate differently already.
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
When people debate about wood and resonance, it's usually supposing that the body shape is equal. There's no disagreement that the shape of the wood is going to effect it's resonance. That's just common sense. It's why a hollow body electric sounds different than an solid body.
When people debate about wood and resonance, it's usually supposing that the body shape is equal. There's no disagreement that the shape of the wood is going to effect it's resonance. That's just common sense. It's why a hollow body electric sounds different than an solid body.
HeftyMetalGuitar
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They just don't look right to me. I would go as far as to say that Telecasters should have bodies which look like that.
They just don't look right to me. I would go as far as to say that Telecasters should have bodies which look like that.
Edgecrusher
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You absolutely cannot prove that the change in resonance you detect is due to that tiny bit of wood being removed. Unless you had the same body before unbound then made no other changes and cut it for binding its impossible to say.
This is why its troll bait. You have no way of knowing what that body would resonate like if it was unbound.
You absolutely cannot prove that the change in resonance you detect is due to that tiny bit of wood being removed. Unless you had the same body before unbound then made no other changes and cut it for binding its impossible to say.
This is why its troll bait. You have no way of knowing what that body would resonate like if it was unbound.
JohnnyGuitar
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I love double bound guitars. Don't miss the contours much, sometimes I feel that a slab is more comfortable in some ways (I do love the classic contoured Strat though).
Fender Japan offers two cool looking models:
http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/st_ho_2h.html
http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/st_ho_3s.html
I love double bound guitars. Don't miss the contours much, sometimes I feel that a slab is more comfortable in some ways (I do love the classic contoured Strat though).
Fender Japan offers two cool looking models:
http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/st_ho_2h.html
http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/st_ho_3s.html
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
I actually do have multiple radiused and standard shaped basswood strats with the same type of hardware, so I've logged many hours noting the diffrrences. Just because someone says something you disagree with doesn't mean it's troll bait. Stop trying to spark flame wars in every thread I post in.
I actually do have multiple radiused and standard shaped basswood strats with the same type of hardware, so I've logged many hours noting the diffrrences. Just because someone says something you disagree with doesn't mean it's troll bait. Stop trying to spark flame wars in every thread I post in.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
Unless its the same body it means bubkis... absolutely zero. Wood is a natural product and varies from piece to piece. Ive seen alder strat bodies vary almost a full pound in weight. There is no way you can prove that the loss in material from a particular body changed its resonance without at minimum doing a before and after test and thats if you can even devise a test that would be credible.
At the very most the only thing you can prove is different guitars sound different. Beyond that its all just what you've made up in your head.
Unless its the same body it means bubkis... absolutely zero. Wood is a natural product and varies from piece to piece. Ive seen alder strat bodies vary almost a full pound in weight. There is no way you can prove that the loss in material from a particular body changed its resonance without at minimum doing a before and after test and thats if you can even devise a test that would be credible.
At the very most the only thing you can prove is different guitars sound different. Beyond that its all just what you've made up in your head.
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
I have four basswood Stats with stock hardware and more radiused top Strats than that, enough to observe a trend.
It's self evident that different geometry results in different resonant properties. That's the basis for how a xylophone works
If you hang up a regular Strat body and a carved top Strat body and strike them with mallets, they're going to sound a little different due to the shape alone, independent of the material they're made with.
I have four basswood Stats with stock hardware and more radiused top Strats than that, enough to observe a trend.
It's self evident that different geometry results in different resonant properties. That's the basis for how a xylophone works
If you hang up a regular Strat body and a carved top Strat body and strike them with mallets, they're going to sound a little different due to the shape alone, independent of the material they're made with.
Edgecrusher
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But you cannot say how much of the difference is due to the shape and how much is due to them being a different piece of wood.
Xylophones have to be "tuned" during their construction exactly for this reason.
But you cannot say how much of the difference is due to the shape and how much is due to them being a different piece of wood.
Xylophones have to be "tuned" during their construction exactly for this reason.
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
I never said how much of a difference there was, only that there was a difference, to a degree that was consistent among the two body shapes, carved and not carved.
I never said how much of a difference there was, only that there was a difference, to a degree that was consistent among the two body shapes, carved and not carved.
DreX
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Re: Anybody Else Here A Big Fan Of Stratocasters With Bound Bodies?
My observation with the lighter carved top Strats and Teles I have compared the thicker flat topped versions is that the carved tops don't sustain quite as long and that they lack some richness in the bass and treble frequency ranges, and I believe this is exactly the reason why people turn to the original so often, rather than embrace carved top super Strats or lighter, smaller "in between" designs, is you don't necessarily realize you're losing that richness right away, at first you're most impressed with the ergonomics or playability, but after some time you realize there's some depth of tone missing. I'd say this is precisely the reason why guitars the like Parker Fly are not more embraced.
My observation with the lighter carved top Strats and Teles I have compared the thicker flat topped versions is that the carved tops don't sustain quite as long and that they lack some richness in the bass and treble frequency ranges, and I believe this is exactly the reason why people turn to the original so often, rather than embrace carved top super Strats or lighter, smaller "in between" designs, is you don't necessarily realize you're losing that richness right away, at first you're most impressed with the ergonomics or playability, but after some time you realize there's some depth of tone missing. I'd say this is precisely the reason why guitars the like Parker Fly are not more embraced.
