Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

[devastone]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Ibanez used to make a back stop
Short piece of angle iron
With a set screw

Like this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JG29RWY/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1488568179&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=guitar+tremolo+stop

The Ibz backstop is nothing like that, it looks like this, you can adjust the amount of 'back" pressure, you can still do pull ups with it.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I've been using locking trems for about eighteen years. I've gotten used to them, and I know how to work with them. I've also learned to appreciate Strat trems and fixed bridges for what they do well.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Or you could try one of these;
http://www.tremking.com/index.php

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Changing strings is pretty easy. Tuning takes more time, no more than a non/locking Strat trem set to float, that said. I don't find locking trems troublesome at all.

 

[man-in-moon]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Changing the strings isn't that bad. The most experience I've had with double locking trems. Is the non floating one that was on my Wolfgang standard. I used a D-tuna a lot on the few strats I have had I always kept the bridge flat on the body.

 

[greekdude]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Guys, for those who didn't understand the video I posted : this is a trem stabilizer which still allows pull ups, and requires NO MODS to the guitar (no drilling) at all. I haven't found a single product besides the posted one which does that.

 

[JeffB]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

My last Floyded guitar was (anyone remember here?) An impeccable Kramer Nightswan I picked up about 12 years ago. Amazing player but between the floyd and full shred I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

I have had a dozen floyed guitars. Old charvels and jacksons and ibbys. My mik peavey wolfgang was by far the best , but generally I can't deal with how they sound, or feel. They look cool though! I prefer a Kahler for locking trems, and I 'd rather have a PRS with trem if I truly needed a trem guitar.

 

[stratguy23]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Since I don't use trems, my favorite locking bridge is the Ibanez *fixed* locking bridge:

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/Fixed_Edge_III

It's been used on a few models, like Satriani and Mick Thomson sigs. I really wish more manufacturers and models used this kind of bridge. It's probably the ultimate in tuning stability short of an Evertune.

 

[Sirion]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

No, I like the look, the sound and the feel of one. That being said, a Floyd Rose or other locking trem will not be terribly efficient for an all-rounder guitar, and if you play shows in multiple tunings you might want to keep a spare guitar in each tuning around. That quickly adds up to a lot of guitars. Oh, and a FR style tremolo that is poorly set up or broken is annoying beyond belief. I have experienced the latter a couple of times with (not-so-)cheap knockoff bridges, where the knives edges have grown dull.

But a solid, well set up Floyd Rose? As far as I'm concerned it is heaven. Then again I'm not very interested in different tunings.

 

[J E C]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I never get tired of Full Floating Locking trems.
I have two. One is an OFR in drop D, the other is a Gotoh in standard. I much prefer the OFR.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

This being said, I don't like any trems that are flat against the body. I really love pulling up on the bar and making whale sounds.

 

[ehdwuld]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Since I don't use trems, my favorite locking bridge is the Ibanez *fixed* locking bridge:

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/Fixed_Edge_III

It's been used on a few models, like Satriani and Mick Thomson sigs. I really wish more manufacturers and models used this kind of bridge. It's probably the ultimate in tuning stability short of an Evertune.

I never understood why anyone would want a double locking hard tail
a hard tail (aka not a tremolo) isnt prone to going out of tune because it doesnt have a bar
why on earth would someone want to over-complicate an already stable design

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I never understood why anyone would want a double locking hard tail
a hard tail (aka not a tremolo) isnt prone to going out of tune because it doesnt have a bar
why on earth would someone want to over-complicate an already stable design

Maybe they like the method of string anchoring, the fine tuners, the profile, how it feels as a hand rest, etc.

 

[frostopsy]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I got tired of locking trems about a week after I got my first guitar with one.

 

[greekdude]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I never understood why anyone would want a double locking hard tail
a hard tail (aka not a tremolo) isnt prone to going out of tune because it doesnt have a bar
why on earth would someone want to over-complicate an already stable design

my nephew's Mick Tompson signature has a locking nut. With a locking nut, you *definitely* need the fine tuners.

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I'm the other way around... I'm slowly going all-Floyd. LOL

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I rocked a bunch of Floyds for thousands of sets back in the 80s, and I never had a problem with any of them. Once set up properly, a Floyd is about as rock solid as it gets. I left one of 'em in a closet for eighteen months once; when I took it out that axe was still almost in perfect tune.- I think I had to tweak the high E a quarter turn on the finetuner and that was it. Changing strings is a little more complicated but once you've done it a handful of times it isn't difficult, just a bit slower than non-locking axes.

Even so, I've gotten spoiled by the perfect trems on my PRSs. Simple & easy, stable tuning and smooth precise action. I'm down to just two Floyd guitars now, plus a third (an import Floyd) that might get sold off soon.

I've been thinking about switching one of my Floydcasters back to the original non-finetuner trem it had when I bought it in the 70s, to see whether it makes any difference in tone on this guitar. That makes for another level of complication when it comes to tuning though, especially when breaking in new strings. Fine tuners were a welcome development for good reason.

 

[dave74]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

Maybe they like the method of string anchoring, the fine tuners, the profile, how it feels as a hand rest, etc.

exactly.

I have only full floaters, but I'd be fine with those Mick Thompson sig style bridges for these very reasons, namely the profile and fine-tuners.

 

[IMENATOR]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

I do vibrato and note bending a lot so my two guitars have it for extra tuning stability. Regarding the hassle of tuning them I really was able to do it properly and faster after
I (1) Stretch the strings enough when stringing the guitar (2) Read the proper instructions by FR below, this one really made the difference for me, Internet at home was not a common thing back then you know.

https://www.floydrose.com/support/tech-support/string-tuning-instructions

 

[man-in-moon]

Re: Anyone ever get tired of locking trems?

It holds its tuning very well. That's one thing I do like. The big annoyance I'm having is I like to change tunings a lot. I may jam out awhile in one tuning then all the sudden go to drop d or drop c. Ideally I need 2-3 guitars set up for different things. But that is not an option.