Anyone know how to or know of someone who can correct a back bend on a neck through ?

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Well, this is unfortunate for the bass and for you. The frets more than likely just needed to be dressed to address their problems, not removed. So that turns $50–$80 worth of work into $200. And simply having a set of strings on it would have given you an idea of what really needed to be done (every guitar or bass I've ever owned has a clearly visible back bow with strings off, and even sometimes when shifting from heavy to light strings). You quite probably could have corrected the problem (if there really is one) with about $125 worth of fret work, set up, and new strings.

Also, are you sure the rod is working properly at all? Can you fully unscrew the nut without resistance?

At this point, it's time to just stop doing **** to it. No more tinkering; you're just gonna dig yourself a deeper hole. Just back the adjustment screw off all the way, so it's loose. Then put a set of heavy gauge strings on it, like 110's, and set the strings high. Let the sucker sit for a month. Don't touch it; don't tweak it; don't even think about it. You probably will just need to play it with high strings at that point (if it is really back bowed at all). If it really is still significantly back bowed to point that it's unplayable (though it's hard to judge playability with the frets pulled out – d'oh!), tune it up half a step and let it sit another month. Repeat this as necessary. Who knows. You might end up with a really cool sounding F, F#, or G standard bass!

At any rate, don't flatten the fingerboard just yet. That's an extreme measure that should only be used as the final step before trashing the thing.
 
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I would take the bass back to Carvin to see what they can do for you.

Bill
 
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Or you could just play it as a fretless bass.
 
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I might be able to do it. I'd have to do some special dances to the Aztec gods. Honeslty, once a wood is bent or is going bent the way it wants to go, there is no stopping it . Just resign yourself to the fact that you have a twisted neck that is no good. Sure , they can try and bend it back -they can steam it ( but unless you have a 35 thousand dollar pre cbs strat neck they want to steam, resteam , and so on and so forth till it is somewhat straight ) , there isn't any point in it.
Call it a lost cause , and move forward.LIke, IMO a cracked headstock ..no point in it unless it is a rare valuable instrument, not only does it do practically nothing for resalevalue , but the headstock is fundamental to the sound and the integrity of the instrumkent , and busted one ruins the tone in general;.
 
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I might be able to do it. I'd have to do some special dances to the Aztec gods. Honeslty, once a wood is bent or is going bent the way it wants to go, there is no stopping it . Just resign yourself to the fact that you have a twisted neck that is no good. Sure , they can try and bend it back -they can steam it ( but unless you have a 35 thousand dollar pre cbs strat neck they want to steam, resteam , and so on and so forth till it is somewhat straight ) , there isn't any point in it.
Call it a lost cause , and move forward.LIke, IMO a cracked headstock ..no point in it unless it is a rare valuable instrument, not only does it do practically nothing for resalevalue , but the headstock is fundamental to the sound and the integrity of the instrumkent , and busted one ruins the tone in general;.

You have no idea. You can make wood your *****!
 
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You have no idea. You can make wood your *****!

Yeah well, I've done enuf research-years- on this to be confident in my assertion that a bent piece of wood is the most incorrigible thing on earth( can't be straightened out) besides a teenage skank.
You caN PrESS IT, YOU CAN STEAM IT, AND BEND IT, BUT ONcE itas TWISTED, TS GONNA GO WHERE ITS HEADED.(sory for the caps !)
 
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Re: Anyone know how to or know of someone who can correct a back bend on a neck throu

Yeah well, I've done enuf research-years- on this to be confident in my assertion that a bent piece of wood is the most incorrigible thing on earth( can't be straightened out) besides a teenage skank.
You caN PrESS IT, YOU CAN STEAM IT, AND BEND IT, BUT ONcE itas TWISTED, TS GONNA GO WHERE ITS HEADED.(sory for the caps !)

Now go back and read the thread again.
 
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I second Bill
Contact Carvin
see what they can do
Probably get it sorted pretty quick

Or at least sell you a new one

heck they may say it supposed to look like that without strings

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Just clamp it down on a workbench with a block of wood about 1/4 - 1/2" thick in the center of the neck (or at the height of the bow). Apply steam and heat (from a paint remover heat gun or hair dryer making sure it doesn't get too hot, you don't want to remove the paint) a couple times a day for a week or two. Then leave it clamped for another couple weeks with only heat occasionally, no steam. Make sure the truss rod is very loose and check it occasionally to make sure it stays loose.
 
Re: Anyone know how to or know of someone who can correct a back bend on a neck throu

Just clamp it down on a workbench with a block of wood about 1/4 - 1/2" thick in the center of the neck (or at the height of the bow). Apply steam and heat (from a paint remover heat gun or hair dryer making sure it doesn't get too hot, you don't want to remove the paint) a couple times a day for a week or two. Then leave it clamped for another couple weeks with only heat occasionally, no steam. Make sure the truss rod is very loose and check it occasionally to make sure it stays loose.

most work benches aren't %100 flat that's why i suggested granite.
 
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Wow didn't realize there was an entire second page going on this thread, I've been away and just got a chance to see all the responses. I'll just reiterate that I do my own fret work, I bought this bass knowing that it had a back bow, and it's not a big deal for me to do a refret. And it seemed necessary to plain the board at the time, when I was rushing to get this done to use in an upcoming show which is why pulling the frets is one of the first things I did. Now that that didn't happen I'm taking a step back to find my best course of action for the future of this bass.

I would hate for this bass to become a lost cause, and would also hate to play it any way shape or form other than what it was intended for. With nice action, in e standard, and a kahler tremolo! :headbang:I still don't understand why the uproar about getting started on my original course of action which was removing the frets. Keeping it original? I still have the every single fret I took off this bass as well as a new matching set of Jescar NS frets. So either way this bass will be properly refretted and as close to original factory spec as possible. I don't particularly see the work I have begun doing as a hindrance to bringing it back to perfect playing condition, so I don't see why that even matters.

I've also contacted Carvin when I first got the bass, but my main concern then was not the back bow even though I mentioned that to them. I mainly asked about a replacement tremolo arm, and basically didn't get too much info about that. It's still a crap shoot for me. But now I'm focusing on what's important which is the back bow, which is very real and hinders the entire playability of the bass. I also like the look of the ebony fret board without frets but I will most definitely end up going with fretted over fret less on this one. :cool2::cool2:
 
Re: Anyone know how to or know of someone who can correct a back bend on a neck throu

When I contacted Carvin about some issues with my Belair
They were.a.bit slow.answering but after abit were very helpful

The trem arm is something they probably didn't keep lying around when they discontinued the kahler

Did they give you the dimensions of the arm?

I would hit em up again
As you said your focus was on the arm not the bow
So the engineers focus was on the arm as well

They probably have much to offer.on.treatment of the bow


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