Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
I saw an add in a guitar magazine about these, they looked pretty cool.
Anyone tried them or play them? What are they like?
Anyone tried them or play them? What are they like?
Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
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green_insomniac
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I have not. However, I was looking into them and all the reviews said they are great for blues, jazz and rock but not so much for hard rock, punk, metal etc. I guess that's what they're supposed to be for considering the style of music Steve Vai plays. He actually uses one in his live rig, I believe.
Peace easy, bro,
G.I.
Peace easy, bro,
G.I.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
I played a used one at GC and it was horrible (distortion was thin and the sustain wasn't great, however it was easy to coax harmonics out of it). Then again, I mentioned *used* and *GC*, so it was probably with some really bad tubes or was abused beyond comprehension.
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Mattt
Guest
Vai has been known to get some storming tones since endorsing that amp though...
Check out the storming riff mid-way through 'Fire-garden suite' from the Fire Garden album.
Or the isolated riff during 'Black Forest' from his 'Alive in an Ultra World' tour album.
Heavy assed distorsion there!
Check out the storming riff mid-way through 'Fire-garden suite' from the Fire Garden album.
Or the isolated riff during 'Black Forest' from his 'Alive in an Ultra World' tour album.
Heavy assed distorsion there!
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Check out the amp Vai really uses in the trader section.
Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
Bit of a late reply i know, but what amp is this?
Gearjoneser said:
Bit of a late reply i know, but what amp is this?
Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
I was just looking up the Vai Legacy stuff and it isnt actually that expensive. I thought it would be heaps being Vai's signiature stuff, but its relatively cheap as far as tube stacks go....surprisingly.
I was just looking up the Vai Legacy stuff and it isnt actually that expensive. I thought it would be heaps being Vai's signiature stuff, but its relatively cheap as far as tube stacks go....surprisingly.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
Dime, you're not too far off.
Face it folks, that Vai signature amp ain't gonna give you his tone. It's guts are from friggen' BOGNER. That's his tone. That tone is in the amp that Gearjoneser is selling.
Actually, a lot of high end amps with good gain will NAIL his lead tone.
My Hughes & Kettner Triamp's high gain channel hits it perfectly. One of the dudes on the forum before, I think his name was Alex, posted clips of his Diezel VH4 and he got down "Die to Live" flawlessly, dynamics and harmonics and everything.
My Triamp was cheaper than a new Legacy anyhow. I don't think it's worth 1300 direct from Carvin. Mine was 1050.
Anyhow, it's your decision
Dime, you're not too far off.
Face it folks, that Vai signature amp ain't gonna give you his tone. It's guts are from friggen' BOGNER. That's his tone. That tone is in the amp that Gearjoneser is selling.
Actually, a lot of high end amps with good gain will NAIL his lead tone.
My Hughes & Kettner Triamp's high gain channel hits it perfectly. One of the dudes on the forum before, I think his name was Alex, posted clips of his Diezel VH4 and he got down "Die to Live" flawlessly, dynamics and harmonics and everything.
My Triamp was cheaper than a new Legacy anyhow. I don't think it's worth 1300 direct from Carvin. Mine was 1050.
Anyhow, it's your decision
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TheArchitect
Guest
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
Where did you hear this?
I keep seeing this but no one will substantiate this with reliable sources. Until I see something halfway concrete I ain't buying it. I don't doubt he uses Bogner in the studio but live those are Carvins. Retrofitting a Bogner into Carvin boxes would be no small task and a pointless excercise since he could get Carvin to give him what he wanted.
the_Chris said:
Where did you hear this?
I keep seeing this but no one will substantiate this with reliable sources. Until I see something halfway concrete I ain't buying it. I don't doubt he uses Bogner in the studio but live those are Carvins. Retrofitting a Bogner into Carvin boxes would be no small task and a pointless excercise since he could get Carvin to give him what he wanted.
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Mattt
Guest
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
Yeah, i don't know where these claims come from...
Some say he uses the Marshalls he was sometimes seen with during the Roth-era, some people say Soldanos, and now i hear people saying Bognor.
Same goes with Eddie Van Halen... people say that his 5150 stacks have the guts of a Variac'd Plexi. Still, no proof.
More recently, i heard people saying that Dimebag's tone doesn't come from a Randall but from Marshall's inside Randall casing. When his sound is clearly Solid State.
I reckon it's all bullshlt, next thing you know... people will be saying that Joe Satriani's amp on stage is a Marshall inside a Peavey JSX casing.
It's all about people rejecting new names and wanking over their beloved brand name amps. Fact is, if you are a top guitarist and a company wants to make you an amp... you can get them to make it sound however you want, there's no need to use a different amp. If Marshall want to make you an amp but you prefer the sound of Mesa... just get Marshall to make you an amp with the sound of a Mesa Boogie, rather than the traditional Marshall sound. All amp companies are quite capable of this... Marshall's Mode4 amp has a channel that sounds like Mesa, for example.
So, provide me with proof... otherwise i'll consider it all bullshlt.
Yeah, i don't know where these claims come from...
Some say he uses the Marshalls he was sometimes seen with during the Roth-era, some people say Soldanos, and now i hear people saying Bognor.
Same goes with Eddie Van Halen... people say that his 5150 stacks have the guts of a Variac'd Plexi. Still, no proof.
More recently, i heard people saying that Dimebag's tone doesn't come from a Randall but from Marshall's inside Randall casing. When his sound is clearly Solid State.
I reckon it's all bullshlt, next thing you know... people will be saying that Joe Satriani's amp on stage is a Marshall inside a Peavey JSX casing.
It's all about people rejecting new names and wanking over their beloved brand name amps. Fact is, if you are a top guitarist and a company wants to make you an amp... you can get them to make it sound however you want, there's no need to use a different amp. If Marshall want to make you an amp but you prefer the sound of Mesa... just get Marshall to make you an amp with the sound of a Mesa Boogie, rather than the traditional Marshall sound. All amp companies are quite capable of this... Marshall's Mode4 amp has a channel that sounds like Mesa, for example.
So, provide me with proof... otherwise i'll consider it all bullshlt.
Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
I played a Legacy in a rehearsal when they first came out. The tone reminded me a lot of Vai's. It was very noisy, though that may be a tube issue. Struck me as a good road to go for a Vai clone, and much more accurate than, say, a 5150 is for getting Ed's tone.
By the way, Vai's real tone is a potato lightbulb circuit slaved to a carver power amp inside a Carvin shell. The key is potato freshness. He likes them slightly green. You heard it here first.
The funniest tone rumour I ever heard was that VH's 5150 was recorded using a Boss HM2 and a Steinberger straight into the desk...
I played a Legacy in a rehearsal when they first came out. The tone reminded me a lot of Vai's. It was very noisy, though that may be a tube issue. Struck me as a good road to go for a Vai clone, and much more accurate than, say, a 5150 is for getting Ed's tone.
By the way, Vai's real tone is a potato lightbulb circuit slaved to a carver power amp inside a Carvin shell. The key is potato freshness. He likes them slightly green. You heard it here first.
The funniest tone rumour I ever heard was that VH's 5150 was recorded using a Boss HM2 and a Steinberger straight into the desk...
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
It was probably very stupid of me to post about the Bogner guts thing, but it does make sense.
I am not a brand name person, if I was, I wouldn't be playing through a Triamp would I? I'd be playing through a Triple Rectifier right now 
Seriously, if you're a professional musician, you won't settle with the tone of a low end amp from Carvin or Peavey. You're gonna want a Bogner or a Diezel or something boutique. Heck, if you're making money playing for a living, you want to be playing the best...simple as that. There is no PROOF... but it certainly makes more sense than believing they are going to change their main piece of gear because of a low end endorsement.
It was probably very stupid of me to post about the Bogner guts thing, but it does make sense.
I am not a brand name person, if I was, I wouldn't be playing through a Triamp would I?
I'd be playing through a Triple Rectifier right now Seriously, if you're a professional musician, you won't settle with the tone of a low end amp from Carvin or Peavey. You're gonna want a Bogner or a Diezel or something boutique. Heck, if you're making money playing for a living, you want to be playing the best...simple as that. There is no PROOF... but it certainly makes more sense than believing they are going to change their main piece of gear because of a low end endorsement.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
Guest
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
It is bogner guts, Ask Gearjoner, he asked bogner. Same with VH, hes all bogner too.
It is bogner guts, Ask Gearjoner, he asked bogner. Same with VH, hes all bogner too.
Jonny R
Volcano Fireologist
Re: Anyone tried the Legacy heads that Steve Vai endorses?
This is not a comment on what these guys are actually doing...but as for me:
If I was going to create a signature model amp (still waiting for an offer actually) I would be happy to work with a company that makes decent equipment.
In the end you are just talking tubes, wires, wood, components, and speakers. Anyone can pull apart boutique amps and copy them. Anyone can source good components.
If a company was making me a signature model I wouldn't bother getting the cabinets refitted by a boutique manufacturer - I'd go through in fine-tooth detail with the company's best craftsmen every single part of the amp - whether it be copying some boutique efforts or not.
Whether or not the company then decided to put the same quality parts or setup into each run-of-the-mill amp is possibly a different matter. How can I check every one?
So yeah, a circuit design, some components, a good craftsman with a passion for pure tone and high-quality - almost sounds like a boutique manufacturer. If I could get that from a 'decent' quality company then why not?
the_Chris said:
This is not a comment on what these guys are actually doing...but as for me:
If I was going to create a signature model amp (still waiting for an offer actually) I would be happy to work with a company that makes decent equipment.
In the end you are just talking tubes, wires, wood, components, and speakers. Anyone can pull apart boutique amps and copy them. Anyone can source good components.
If a company was making me a signature model I wouldn't bother getting the cabinets refitted by a boutique manufacturer - I'd go through in fine-tooth detail with the company's best craftsmen every single part of the amp - whether it be copying some boutique efforts or not.
Whether or not the company then decided to put the same quality parts or setup into each run-of-the-mill amp is possibly a different matter. How can I check every one?
So yeah, a circuit design, some components, a good craftsman with a passion for pure tone and high-quality - almost sounds like a boutique manufacturer. If I could get that from a 'decent' quality company then why not?
