APS-1 out of phase.

thrill74

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I just installed an APS-1 in the neck position of my 2009 American Standard Strat (the middle and bridge are stock. Wired with the white wire as hot and the black as ground, it doesn't hum cancel with the middle pickup. It's in phase though. When I swap the leads to white/ground and black/hot I get hum canceling but out of phase. Did I need to get a RWRP APS-1? To get hum canceling AND in phase, what do I need to do with the pickups I have?
 
APS-1 out of phase.

It will only hum cancel if the magnets are reverse polarity and then it's wired electrically out of phase.

So it sounds like the middle pickup is not reverse wound/reverse polarity relative to the APS-1.


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Re: APS-1 out of phase.

After using the search function on the forum ;) ......I found some information about reverse placing the bridge and middle pickups, then reversing the leads on the bridge pickup. Would this work? Or would I still have a phasing issue?
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

You're either going to have to replace one of the single coils or you're going to have to take out the pole pieces in one of them, one by one, flip them over and push them back in.
 
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Never take polepieces out on a fiber bobbin pickup btw, should work with most plastic bobbins though. I have no clue what the American Standard used in 2009 but an APS is fiber.
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

The way Fender and Duncan pickups work together, you will get in phase or hum cancelling.....not both.
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

Put the old neck pickup face-to-face with the APS-1. If they attract (they should) you can do the following...

If you move your old neck to the middle and old middle to the bridge, connect the APS-1 with White as hot and Black as ground, it would all cancel hum and be in phase.

Really the best bet is to get a SSL-1 RWRP for the mid and an SSL-5 for the bridge. (I have that combo on one of my Strats... I love it. ;))
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

right. you want the neck pup to attract to the middle pup. with the pups you have you should be able to make a set that has humcancelling in the 2 & 4 positions. is the bridge wound hotter than the others?
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

The bridge doesn't sound hotter. They seem to be pretty even all around. Though, the neck pickup just didn't have a bell tone like the APS. I put the old neck pickup face to face with all the pickups. It attracts to the APS, and the stock middle. Pushes away from the stock bridge.

By the way, the stamped number on the stock plate is 016730, and the written number is 56205.

I've found quite a bit of info on these pickups in the last few minutes. Looks like the bridge has some screws added to add ferric mass. It sounds ok for the bridge but I'm not locked down to it.
 
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Success!

Opened the strat up this morning. Moved the stock neck to the middle and stock middle to the bridge. Soldered them in and then checked my phase. Everything seemed ok in all the positions except number 4. No hum cancelling. So I reversed the leads back to black negative and white as hot. Now I have hum cancelling and phase in number 4! It worked!
 
Re: APS-1 out of phase.

Isn't black the hot wire, and white ground?

Edit: Nevermind, re-read OP.
 
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