Are all JB's virtually unusable?
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
I've been in customer service and sales since 1926...
ok... a while. Every now and then you get someone who doesn't want help. That would solve their problem and take away their main source of fun, which would be complaining.
OPs issues do not add up and his repeated inability to answer questions or even address the fact that SD's direct employee responded to him on the first page is making me want to file this one into the troll category.
I've been in customer service and sales since 1926...
ok... a while. Every now and then you get someone who doesn't want help. That would solve their problem and take away their main source of fun, which would be complaining.
OPs issues do not add up and his repeated inability to answer questions or even address the fact that SD's direct employee responded to him on the first page is making me want to file this one into the troll category.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
Chuff is a verb not a noun, you can be chuffed like as in "I'm chuffed as **** that I got a raise at work"
Chuffed is a positive thing.
Chuff is a verb not a noun, you can be chuffed like as in "I'm chuffed as **** that I got a raise at work"
Chuffed is a positive thing.
Shooter.556
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
I have a JB and a 59 in one of my Les Pauls and the JB was really finicky with the tone caps on my Lester.
I used Bourns low friction 500k pots and vintage cloth wire in my set up. The first try I bought some Russian NOS PIO caps in .022 and they sucked.. They cut the balls off my guitar.
Then I ordered some .022 Orange Drops and they brought the growl back and I love the way my JB 59 combo sounds. I have another Les Paul with a 57 Classic 57 Classic Plus combo and Orange Drops in it and I am happy with those caps.. Don't put good pickups and crap wire and pots and expect greatness. It costs and extra $40-$50 to buy new pots and wiring.. Do it right the first time.
99% of the time when I hear people say a JB sounds like crap its due to the fact that they wired a JB into an Epi with the stock pots and wire.. Upgrade all of your tone not just half of it..
I also only play blues rock and some old heavy rock. I play thru a Blackstar HT5TH 2x10 and an EVH 5150iii 1x12 combo in my house..
I have been around JBs in Les Pauls and Super Strats for 25 years and never heard of the issues you're describing where faulty wiring or a bad install wasn't the culprit.
I also work on all my own guitars and amps and I work as an electrical controls and instrumentation specialist so I know quite a bit about electrical theory and understand current and grounding issues very well.
I have a JB and a 59 in one of my Les Pauls and the JB was really finicky with the tone caps on my Lester.
I used Bourns low friction 500k pots and vintage cloth wire in my set up. The first try I bought some Russian NOS PIO caps in .022 and they sucked.. They cut the balls off my guitar.
Then I ordered some .022 Orange Drops and they brought the growl back and I love the way my JB 59 combo sounds. I have another Les Paul with a 57 Classic 57 Classic Plus combo and Orange Drops in it and I am happy with those caps.. Don't put good pickups and crap wire and pots and expect greatness. It costs and extra $40-$50 to buy new pots and wiring.. Do it right the first time.
99% of the time when I hear people say a JB sounds like crap its due to the fact that they wired a JB into an Epi with the stock pots and wire.. Upgrade all of your tone not just half of it..
I also only play blues rock and some old heavy rock. I play thru a Blackstar HT5TH 2x10 and an EVH 5150iii 1x12 combo in my house..
I have been around JBs in Les Pauls and Super Strats for 25 years and never heard of the issues you're describing where faulty wiring or a bad install wasn't the culprit.
I also work on all my own guitars and amps and I work as an electrical controls and instrumentation specialist so I know quite a bit about electrical theory and understand current and grounding issues very well.
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treyhaislip
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
This is beyond hilarious! :18::jester::nana::lmao:
This is beyond hilarious! :18::jester::nana::lmao:
Lucy Diamond
Well-known member
Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
I had a JB that I put in a Les Paul and didn't like the sound, so I put it in an Ibanez USA Custom and I liked it much better.
In mid July, I bought a USA Jackson Soloist that came with a JB in the bridge and I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE it.
Who knows how these things work.
All I can say at this point is I wish you better luck next time.
Just out of curiosity...what kind of amp are you using?
I had a JB that I put in a Les Paul and didn't like the sound, so I put it in an Ibanez USA Custom and I liked it much better.
In mid July, I bought a USA Jackson Soloist that came with a JB in the bridge and I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE it.
Who knows how these things work.
All I can say at this point is I wish you better luck next time.
Just out of curiosity...what kind of amp are you using?
richard parker
Active member
Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
'As for it being my error: It was tried in the shop still in the guitar by them and it howled - so no user error.'
So the shop tried it and it howled but it was 'checked' and deemed to be fine. This would suggest that any JB would do the same thing yes ? Anyone that bought a JB would have the same experience ? What a load of cr*p.
'As for it being my error: It was tried in the shop still in the guitar by them and it howled - so no user error.'
So the shop tried it and it howled but it was 'checked' and deemed to be fine. This would suggest that any JB would do the same thing yes ? Anyone that bought a JB would have the same experience ? What a load of cr*p.
Nostalgic Distortion
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
I'm American, I was born in TX & I lived all over when I was younger because my father joined the U.S. Military but he's a British National & so is my mother, or they were, they became citizens about 30 yrs ago now. Since my dad retired & moved us to NH I've lived in & around New England for the past 20 years. My accent is probably someplace between Stephen King & Steve Earle! But I remember my mum & dad using the word when I was a kid, & I was always under the assumption that it meant a positive attitude or being excited about something, not angry or pi**ed???
Not that this has anything to do with the O.P. but I think just about everyone has written that guy off by now anyway, so why not???
I'm American, I was born in TX & I lived all over when I was younger because my father joined the U.S. Military but he's a British National & so is my mother, or they were, they became citizens about 30 yrs ago now. Since my dad retired & moved us to NH I've lived in & around New England for the past 20 years. My accent is probably someplace between Stephen King & Steve Earle! But I remember my mum & dad using the word when I was a kid, & I was always under the assumption that it meant a positive attitude or being excited about something, not angry or pi**ed???
Not that this has anything to do with the O.P. but I think just about everyone has written that guy off by now anyway, so why not???
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Edgecrusher
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
Yeah..thats what I said... chuffed is a positive thing. Why would someone be angry that they got a raise at work? How did you get that from my example? Wouldnt you be excited about a raise?
Yeah..thats what I said... chuffed is a positive thing. Why would someone be angry that they got a raise at work? How did you get that from my example? Wouldnt you be excited about a raise?
Nostalgic Distortion
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
It seems to me that this one just likes to complain for the sake of complaining! On top of that none of his complaints about the JB even made sense & the comments about Duncan's customer support were just unbelievable! Any time I've ever contacted Duncan, whether by email, phone, fax, or frigging Pony Express they've literally bent over backwards to help me out with whatever issue I was having @ the time.
I may not be a fan of the J.B. but its just personal preference, it's not "Unusable" by any means. There's a reason why it's the worlds biggest & I.M.H.O. best pickup manufacturer's best selling bridge humbucker, they have to be working out for some people because Seymour keeps making them!!!
I know I jokingly answered "yes" to the O.P. but I had one in my Fallout for over two years before I swapped it out for a 59. That guitar sounds a lot like a S.G., the Mahogany body quelled the shrillness & tightened it up enough for me to play it without too many complaints. I didn't get the guitar and immediately rip it out & replace it with something else, which I do to Fenders all the time? When it started to bother me I replaced it, like a normal person????
It seems to me that this one just likes to complain for the sake of complaining! On top of that none of his complaints about the JB even made sense & the comments about Duncan's customer support were just unbelievable! Any time I've ever contacted Duncan, whether by email, phone, fax, or frigging Pony Express they've literally bent over backwards to help me out with whatever issue I was having @ the time.
I may not be a fan of the J.B. but its just personal preference, it's not "Unusable" by any means. There's a reason why it's the worlds biggest & I.M.H.O. best pickup manufacturer's best selling bridge humbucker, they have to be working out for some people because Seymour keeps making them!!!
I know I jokingly answered "yes" to the O.P. but I had one in my Fallout for over two years before I swapped it out for a 59. That guitar sounds a lot like a S.G., the Mahogany body quelled the shrillness & tightened it up enough for me to play it without too many complaints. I didn't get the guitar and immediately rip it out & replace it with something else, which I do to Fenders all the time? When it started to bother me I replaced it, like a normal person????
RStabler
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
Translation: All of your posts have been really helpful, but I wasn't looking for help! I can came here to trash SD! :flush:
Translation: All of your posts have been really helpful, but I wasn't looking for help! I can came here to trash SD! :flush:
Demanic
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
The JB is a picky pickup that doesn't like to play well with mahogany. It's KILLER in alder, ash and maple, any time imho. But, in the right guitar it rips in mahogany, too.
So, I'm calling bull****. there is little that can go wrong in a pickup.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/anatomy-of-a-humbucker
there we go. Just read my article about the anatomy of a humbucker and see how much, or little, parts are in a pickup that can pose a problem.
The JB is a picky pickup that doesn't like to play well with mahogany. It's KILLER in alder, ash and maple, any time imho. But, in the right guitar it rips in mahogany, too.
So, I'm calling bull****. there is little that can go wrong in a pickup.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/anatomy-of-a-humbucker
there we go. Just read my article about the anatomy of a humbucker and see how much, or little, parts are in a pickup that can pose a problem.
El Dunco
Sock Supplier to RHCP
Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
I haven't been wiring guitars for 40 years but I've never had that particular problem with any pickup and would never take my problems with a product out on its forum and then write off the entire line of products. There are rules on this forum about being respectful to other users but if you're not going to act like a legitimate user, you deserve what you get.
I haven't been wiring guitars for 40 years but I've never had that particular problem with any pickup and would never take my problems with a product out on its forum and then write off the entire line of products. There are rules on this forum about being respectful to other users but if you're not going to act like a legitimate user, you deserve what you get.
kramersteen
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LtKojak
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Re: Are all JB's virtually unusable?
You didn't actually lost money; you didn't get screwed by the vendor. You've actually got yourself a heck of a deal for the Jazz Neck model!!!
Keith, in the name of the SDUGF, I hand you the 2015 Darwin Award.
:dunce:
Well done. Don't be modest, you really deserve it. You don't even need to give the usual acceptance speech!
So, you bought a SET.
So, the shop gave you 50% of the value of the set, right? It means that the shop only made you pay for ONE p'up, at a lower price than the list price for the single, as it was in a SET.
You didn't actually lost money; you didn't get screwed by the vendor. You've actually got yourself a heck of a deal for the Jazz Neck model!!!
Keith, in the name of the SDUGF, I hand you the 2015 Darwin Award.
:dunce:
Well done. Don't be modest, you really deserve it. You don't even need to give the usual acceptance speech!
Edgecrusher
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