Are Antiquities handwound?

[darkshadow54321]

I think I remember reading somewhere that they're handwound... is this true? Do they have all the 3d texture & overtones commonly associated with handwound p/u's?

EDIT: forgot to say I was referring to the humbuckers.

 

[tone4days]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

what do you mean by handwound? ... there is a (lovely young latina) operator who works the vintage machine in the pic below that winds the humbucker ants and seths ... it is the exact same machine that was used in the gibson factory way way back in the mid-to-late 50's to wind all the (now vintage) pups ... and yes, ants sound incredible ... plus they got mojo

of course, single coil ants are wound in the customshop by SD or MJ

hope this helps
t4d

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

I think I remember reading somewhere that they're handwound... is this true? Do they have all the 3d texture & overtones commonly associated with handwound p/u's?

EDIT: forgot to say I was referring to the humbuckers.

They do have that 3D texture you ar talking about but they way I understand it that 3D texture comes from not wax potting a pickup.

 

[Breogan]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

As far as I know all Seymour Duncars are handwound. Antiqities are handwound by Seymoud himself or MJ.

 

[Imp]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

seymour did mine

theyre signed on the back

tom

 

[Stringmachine]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

seymour did mine

theyre signed on the back

tom

Jupp! Mine too!!

 

[Bones]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

I am not sure what the definition is for hand wound. MJ showed me her gadget in the Custom shop for the handwound ones. I am assuming that some Antiquities are not hand wound? Alot of people that were making antiquity single coils @ UGD were getting theirs done on a winding machine.

 

[royd]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

All pickups are wound with a michine, the question is whether the wire is guided by the machine (typical for mass produced pickups including Duncans) or by hand which results in a less consistent wind refered to as scatterwound and a more complex tone. I think the antiquities are made that way. Those of us who did single coils at the UGD guided the wire by hand resulting in a scatterwound pickup.

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

Brendan (B2D) and I were discussing what the defintion of handwound is. If your defintion is that a hand goes around the coil 4000+ times wrapping the wire, then the answer is no. If by handwound you mean a machine spins the bobbin and a hand guides the wire then the answer is yes for single coils and "I don't remember for buckers" Regardless I do know they are wound on the old Gibson machine in T4D's photo and hand assembled, and aged individually by MJ or Seymour.

They sound great, I've played two R8's with them wow...

Luke

 

[darkshadow54321]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

All pickups are wound with a michine, the question is whether the wire is guided by the machine (typical for mass produced pickups including Duncans) or by hand which results in a less consistent wind refered to as scatterwound and a more complex tone. I think the antiquities are made that way. Those of us who did single coils at the UGD guided the wire by hand resulting in a scatterwound pickup.

Yes, I mean scatterwound...

So, then, we've established that the antiquities are probably made that way.

I assume the regular production pickups are not? Just machine wound? If that's true, the only way to get a scatterwound pickup is through the custom shop, or if you buy an antiquity, no?

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

Yes, I mean scatterwound...

So, then, we've established that the antiquities are probably made that way.

I assume the regular production pickups are not? Just machine wound? If that's true, the only way to get a scatterwound pickup is through the custom shop, or if you buy an antiquity, no?

Yes

 

[Curly]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

as explained above, yes, Antiquities are hand wound, or more specifically, scatterwound by a hand guided method, using a machine. To get any kind of production, you obviously have to use a winder!

BTW, most, if not all of the SD PAF type humbuckers are wound on the Leesona winder pictured above, using materials and methods as true as possible to the original Gibson PAF humbuckers. "It's the real deal."

and for those who don't know, the Leesona winder is from the old Gibson Kalamazoo factory

 

[Evan Skopp]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

Antiquity humbuckers are machine wound on the Leesona (and then assembled in the custom shop). The reason is that's the way the PAFs were made -- machine wound, not hand wound.

Antiquity single coils are hand wound (and assembled) in the custom shop. The reason is that's the way the original Fender pickups were made -- hand wound.

It's all about doing them the same way as the originals.

 

[Imp]

Re: Are Antiquities handwound?

1,000th post, evan

i guess doing them that ways stays true to the originals, plus winding 8k of wire onto two coils by hand guiding would take yonks