Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

[cliffenstein]

Different pickups and body shape, but other than that, what's different about them?

I tried a black on black F Zero yesterday in my local GC and I was amazed at how great the neck was. It had the leaning bridge issue, but the action was decently low all the way up the neck.

The Zero body and headstock shape are not for me. I tried it to see what the neck and bridge were like more than anything else.

Anyone here own or tried both? Enlighten me on the similarities and differences if so.

 

[Blille]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Different pickups and body shape, but other than that, what's different about them?

I tried a black on black F Zero yesterday in my local GC and I was amazed at how great the neck was. It had the leaning bridge issue, but the action was decently low all the way up the neck.

The Zero body and headstock shape are not for me. I tried it to see what the neck and bridge were like more than anything else.

Anyone here own or tried both? Enlighten me on the similarities and differences if so.

Firebird is solid poplar, M2 is multiply poplar.


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[cliffenstein]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Firebird is solid poplar, M2 is multiply poplar.

Gibson.com lists both as solid poplar bodies and both with identical neck angle (or rather...lack thereof).

 

[Aceman]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Just reading the title - probably

Gibson lying? Not unheard of.

 

[Blille]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Gibson.com lists both as solid poplar bodies and both with identical neck angle (or rather...lack thereof).

That's funny in MF it's listed as multiply poplar

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-m2-electric-guitar



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[cliffenstein]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

That's funny in MF it's listed as multiply poplar

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-m2-electric-guitar

Yeah...and it also says solid wood and in the description it says solid poplar. Weird...MF and GC have incorrect descriptions a lot, though.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Multiply would be alarming, but not unbelievable.

 

[ehdwuld]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

I am constantly annoyed by sites listing both 25.5 and 24.75 scales on certain models

 

[Wattage]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Go by Gibson's description.

I liked both but I could only find the M2 in a hideous green in store. I bought the Zero, I love it fwiw, mine plays great with a setup. It played pretty well and was definitely right for me before the setup but smoothing up the board and cleaning some fret ends made a huge difference. I also took a bit of paint over-spray out of the bridge ferrule area which let me get the height down a hair. It isn't perfect but it is fun, cool, funky and reasonably inexpensive. .

The body shapes make a big difference in balance but the Zero is so light it is hardly an issue. The pickups take some dialing in to find the right height, at least they did for me, but they're pretty good just not quite traditional Gibson sounding IMO.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?319316-NGD-Wild-Zero&highlight=wild+zero

 

[cliffenstein]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

Thank you, Wattage...much appreciated!

 

[cliffenstein]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

And...now that I finally got my new to me 2007 Melody Maker back from the shop, I am feeling no need for an M2. Funny how that works.

 

[Wattage]

Re: Are Gibson's M2 and Firebird Zero essentially the same?

You're welcome and glad to hear it