atrat rebuild
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Blue_Fingers_Jay
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Re: atrat rebuild
The Japanese Richie Blackmore strat had a set neck.
This site as some pics:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/2374/setneck.html
Will the joint be strong enough? Set necks usually go further into the body, don't they?
The Japanese Richie Blackmore strat had a set neck.
This site as some pics:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/2374/setneck.html
Will the joint be strong enough? Set necks usually go further into the body, don't they?
Re: atrat rebuild
I have seen it done before. In fact I bought an old strat-copy that someone had done that to. When I got it they still had the neck bolts in it. I later removed them and the neck plate. It stayed together fine as long as I had it. I reinstalled them when I sold it. I do not know what kind of glue they used. It won't be as stong as a deep tenon/pocket joint, but it stayed together and I had no problems with it in the year or two I played it.
I am not exactly sure what their purpose was...maybe like you, they just wanted to know.
-dave
I have seen it done before. In fact I bought an old strat-copy that someone had done that to. When I got it they still had the neck bolts in it. I later removed them and the neck plate. It stayed together fine as long as I had it. I reinstalled them when I sold it. I do not know what kind of glue they used. It won't be as stong as a deep tenon/pocket joint, but it stayed together and I had no problems with it in the year or two I played it.
I am not exactly sure what their purpose was...maybe like you, they just wanted to know.
-dave
danglybanger
ReelItInologist
Re: atrat rebuild
If you don't know what you're doing you could wind up with the neck at a wrong angle, and much of the useability of the boltneck to me comes from the utility of being able to remove/shim it.
Also know what kind of glue you're using, and remember how much more contact area a "proper" set neck has compared to a strat pocket.
Why do you want to do it? Tonally, there are things that make SO much more of a difference, including a good setup.
If you don't know what you're doing you could wind up with the neck at a wrong angle, and much of the useability of the boltneck to me comes from the utility of being able to remove/shim it.
Also know what kind of glue you're using, and remember how much more contact area a "proper" set neck has compared to a strat pocket.
Why do you want to do it? Tonally, there are things that make SO much more of a difference, including a good setup.
Bender
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Re: atrat rebuild
+1
I was just wondering if it could be done , don't hear much about 'em and thought it might be cool to try it.
I've pretty much got the alignment worked out and the depth to set it just didn't want to go with it until I heard some info from someone that might know for certain.
+1
I was just wondering if it could be done , don't hear much about 'em and thought it might be cool to try it.
I've pretty much got the alignment worked out and the depth to set it just didn't want to go with it until I heard some info from someone that might know for certain.
Re: atrat rebuild
i'd never glue a bolt on neck... i tried it on an old junk guitar for fun once... made no difference that i could tell... it seems to be a thing people will think it helps tone... i think Blackmore did it more because the 70's 3 bolt neck pockets let the necks shift too easy and his rough nature on the axes made it easy to go out of tune with the neck shifting...
someone once told me if i was to glue a set neck in place they told me to place a piece of writing paper in-between the neck and body glue joint... that way the glue joint could be broken easier if i ever needed to remove the neck
i'd never glue a bolt on neck... i tried it on an old junk guitar for fun once... made no difference that i could tell... it seems to be a thing people will think it helps tone... i think Blackmore did it more because the 70's 3 bolt neck pockets let the necks shift too easy and his rough nature on the axes made it easy to go out of tune with the neck shifting...
someone once told me if i was to glue a set neck in place they told me to place a piece of writing paper in-between the neck and body glue joint... that way the glue joint could be broken easier if i ever needed to remove the neck
Dru Edwards
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Re: atrat rebuild
I'm away on a business trip so I can't look at my strats/les pauls at home but are there any differences in neck joint and the amount of wood between the two? Basically, if you glue a neck on a strat, even if you had the correct angle, is there anything else that could affect the tone and stability, such as the joint itself? I have no idea, I'm just asking.
I'm away on a business trip so I can't look at my strats/les pauls at home but are there any differences in neck joint and the amount of wood between the two? Basically, if you glue a neck on a strat, even if you had the correct angle, is there anything else that could affect the tone and stability, such as the joint itself? I have no idea, I'm just asking.
Mr 9finger
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Re: atrat rebuild
Set necks w/ the long tenons have more contact area. I'm not so sure about the more modern short tenon. It pretty must looks like a skinny U. All that being said. I don't think I'd try on it a strat.
If you must know though, most luthiers use hide glue for their gluing needs.
Set necks w/ the long tenons have more contact area. I'm not so sure about the more modern short tenon. It pretty must looks like a skinny U. All that being said. I don't think I'd try on it a strat.
If you must know though, most luthiers use hide glue for their gluing needs.
