Bad Trader Alert

[Jolly_Rancher]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

All of this time and all of your B.S. and still no pictures. Oh, don't bother with it now. Whatever you do now is after the fact. You seem to skim right over the facts that you inspected the pickups, that you threw away the box, and that you're making moronic assumptions. First of all, you accused me of knowingly shipping a faulty pickup in a plot ot obtain $80 from a shipping claim. LOL! What kind of imbecile makes an accusation like that? Furthermore, I don't need to swindle $80 from anyone since A.) I never shipped faulty items B.) I make a comfortable living from my profession C.) I have 3 freaking brand new Fender Stratocaster pickguards full of pickups just like that one D.) I own top of the line gear. Why you think that someone like me would possibly want to swindle the post office out of $25 is beyond reason.

Second, assuming that I told the truth and packed the box correctly, it would be logical to assume that A.) YOU damaged the pickup when tinkering with it B.) The item was damaged during shipping. I was being kind to you by assuming that it was a shipping claim.

Now, YOU CLAIM THE BOX WAS UNDAMAGED ETC... YET YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER... IT'S ALL YOUR B.S. AND NOTHING MORE.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD. IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN YOUR CLAIM WHICH IS BACKED UP BY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - PLUS YOU ALREADY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF SEVERAL TIMES.

You don't seem to understand simple logic. That's because you're trying to hard to justify your lies that you ignore reason and logic. Give it up and stop carrying on this act of yours.

You clearly care about $25 enough to make this huge fuss over it, so why not $80?

You obviously don't know how to assess packaging because you think you packaged them properly.

If I broke the pickup from tinkering with it, then why do the 2 other pickups work still? And since when is touching the leads with a DMM probe tinkering?

Who in their inexperienced mind takes pics of a box's contents? That's just weird, unless you're expecting them to be broken, or see some physical damage.

I don't need to back up my claim, the pickup doesn't work. It's as simple as that. Your end of the deal was not met, and you just keep escalating the situation with your antics and poor manners.

Finally, it's not about being LOGICAL, it's about being a truthful, good person and trader. It's about looking past the small things. You just aren't a good person so you will never understand. You don't seem to understand that I'm not trying to justify anything other than getting what I paid for. Sure I could go dig in the trash and find the box, but am I that kind of person? No. I don't even care if I get the $25 or $27.60 back, but you should pay me back because you messed up. And then you messed up on this forum. Look at yourself and your business practices.

Now, go ahead and post the last text because it seems to make you feel better...

 

[ericmeyer4]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

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[King IzzO)))]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

I've done trades with Jolly_Rancher before that went just fine, just sayin'.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

I realize that this recent debate has moved beyond the practical and become a matter or principal for both sides, but FWIW, it's a three-to-five minute fix on that pickup. I know the end that broken is the starting end, but you can usually pull some slack out anyhow, if you are not coming at it like a gorilla. You just pull some out and add a short extension, just like a humbucker coil.

My two cents: It's time to quit fighting about it. Realize that things got unnecesarily heated, and back off an make good with each other. There is no way to prove when the damage occured, and it is likely an accident in either case. UMD could have missed the damage before shipping. The USPS could have shaken up the package a bit. Jolly Rancher could have broken it without even noticing. But there is no way to know, so there is no way to assign fault. UMD doesn't owe anyone anything, and I would have reacted the same way, if not worse, if someone had accused me of commiting fraud. Neither of you can get anything from the USPS because the box is gone (lesson learned). And as far as bringing balance to the universe (i.e. making it so that Jolly Rancher gets what he paid for), Jolly Rancher can fix the pickup himself with zero cost and five minutes of labor, max. This is an easy situation to resolve if you step back and realize that the goal should be practical, not one of principal; the goal is to have three working pickups for the price paid, not to bring fairness and justice to the universe. It doesn't warrant any mud slinging in either direction.

Now I will step back and get hassled for trying to help.

 

[ericmeyer4]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

Nicely put Itsabass.

 

[formula73]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

This **** is awesome.

 

[formula73]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

Peenor

 

[dr. ad]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

wtf happened in here?!

 

[ericmeyer4]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

wtf happened in here?!

Pickups were sent, pickups were received, and all appeared well. However, soon after problems arose, accusations flew, and it resulted in two unsatisfied traders.

 

[Lucid_Lunatic]

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[King IzzO)))]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

*not taking the bait*

 

[Jolly_Rancher]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

It's nice to see that quite a few forum members have their heads on straight, and while Itsabass presented his overview and opinion of the situation well and good, I don't agree that nothing should be done here. And I do consider me buying a new bridge pickup as something to be done. (already did it) Problem solved for me... I just look at it like the neck and middle pickups were $40 each which still beats buying new, despite the fact that there's a chance I'll get a partial refund from Paypal.

 

[UberMetalDood]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

I already posted the facts and stand by them. Nothing more needs to be said on my part since the facts are on my side. Jolly_Rancher filed a frivolous claim with Paypal and I escalated it to a Paypal dispute, so it's now a private matter. There's nothing left to discuss as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Jolly_Rancher]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

UPDATE:

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

Uh...what percentage refund did you get? Full? Half? 33%?

 

[TheLivingDead]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

UPDATE:

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

... If you got a full refund you need to send EVERYTHING back.

Shouldn't have even gotten a refund in the first place...

 

[CTN]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

UPDATE:

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

total d0uchebag move.

good job.:lame:

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

UPDATE:

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

Here's the deal...

I'm not picking a side.

However, if you initiated the claim and got a full refund, then EVERYTHING goes back...no exception.

If you got 1/2 or 1/3 back, keep the two good pickups and send back the bad one.

Regardless, even if you feel the seller duped you, don't stoop to the level of a "bad trader" yourself

 

[rumblebox]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

more proof that paypal almost unconditionally sides with the buyer.

 

[ericmeyer4]

Re: Bad Trader Alert

UPDATE:

Paypal granted my claim, but I'm not going to send EVERYTHING back (which is what they've instructed me to do) because 2 of the pickups are in my guitar, and it's a waste of my time and money to uninstall them, ship them back, find new ones, etc.

If you got your money back you need to send EVERYTHING back. Even if it is an inconvenience to you. You can't get your money back and keep some of the merchandise. That makes you a thief.

UMD you should report this to Paypal.