Bell tones 50's fender pickups

walters

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What causes the "Bell tones" in those old 50's fender pickups?

Some fender pickups have more or less "bell tones" how do i make my pickups have more or less "bell tones" please?
 
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What's different in those old pickups?

The bobbins were made of cardboard vs. plastic in the new ones

The magnets were alnico vs. ceramic

The pickups were wound by hand vs. machine, and wax potted.

The hook up wire was formvar (looks like cloth covering vs. vinyl coated)
 
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Is the Bell tones Presences or Harmonics?

How do i wind a pickup for more presences?

How do i wind a pickup for different harmonics?
 
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hey walters

sounds like your talking about harmonics which have a lot more to do with playing technique than pickup spec though many say its a lot easier to get those tones from humbuckers than on single coils, other than that it is more dependant on your mastery of the technique than what pickup you use. though some pickups are said to be easier to pull harmonics off of (such as the JB or EMG's) but again technique has a far greater impact than pickups

hopefully this will help
 
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To wind a pickup with good chime use alnico V rod magnets, use the original Fender staggered polepiece design, and scatterwind it to about 6k. Potting is optional.
 
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I thought not Potting it would make more "bell tones"

What would make more bell tones and what bell tone frequencys can i get?

All 50's fender pickups have different bell tone frequencys why is that ?
 
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walters said:
I thought not Potting it would make more "bell tones"

What would make more bell tones and what bell tone frequencys can i get?

All 50's fender pickups have different bell tone frequencys why is that ?
i think the diffrences depend on playing technique
 
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get a set of vintage winds, set them very low, voila; 'bell' tones...

What 'bell' frequencies? Well, with a ring modulator, you can get eine Klangundfarben...like Stockhausen. Seriously, the harmonic content will vary depending on the note, guitar, amp, strings, pick, acoustic space, what shape your ears are in, etc etc. Pickups are not ideal devices that respond in altogether predicable ways...or they would be very boring.
 
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What 'bell' frequencies

When playing a 50's strat each year or even the same year in the 50's have different "bell tone" frequency superimposed on top of the twang but every "bell tone" frequencys are different superimposed on top of the pickup sound how did they do this back then and what causes it please?
 
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walters said:
every "bell tone" frequencys are different superimposed on top of the pickup sound how did they do this back then and what causes it please?

Differences in production :smack:
 
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You'll get a really good, sweet bell tone and harmonics if your wind is very heavily scattered. The sloppier and more ball-of-yarn-ish, the better.
 
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Zhangliqun

Is it underwound or overwound or midrange or weak that makes the "bell tones"?
 
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larry_emder said:
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If you don't want all of the questions, don't pay any attention to the threads, and certainly don't post on them!
 
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What kind of extenal circuit/network in series or in parallel would create more "bell tones"?

Like if i make a circuit/network that i could hook up to a normal squire strat pickup to create more "bell tones" what would the circuit/network be or do please?
 
Re: Bell tones 50's fender pickups

walters said:
What kind of extenal circuit/network in series or in parallel would create more "bell tones"?

Like if i make a circuit/network that i could hook up to a normal squire strat pickup to create more "bell tones" what would the circuit/network be or do please?
seeries humbuckers are better at "bell tones" than single coils you need to have the middle pickup RWRP or whatever.
 
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Yea but the 50's strats pickups were single coil pickup and had alot of different bell tones per each year

Does bell tones create phase? or to get bell tones u need to phase?
 
Re: Bell tones 50's fender pickups

okay i think im talking about something diffrent than what you are asking about sorry :blackeye:
 
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