Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

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Just curious as to why some people with the Les Paul style tune o matic bridge with stopbar string the bridge "backwards"? I mean what are the pros and cons
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

You mean inserting the strings towards the tail of the guitar and then wrapping them over the tail-piece? There's a couple of reasons. It reduces string tension and makes bends and vibrato easier by reducing the downward angle of the strings over the bridge. Apparently this helps with reducing string breakages as well but since I never break strings anyway I can't really comment on that.
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

i'm not usually "this guy" but we seriously cover this topic just about every month. i would try the search function cuz then you'll find a lot of detailed and thorough responses from the first 666 times we examined this issue.

basically what it comes down to is it changes a few subtle things that you either like, dislike, or don't notice. i like what it does so i do it. not everybody does.
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

You mean inserting the strings towards the tail of the guitar and then wrapping them over the tail-piece? There's a couple of reasons. It reduces string tension and makes bends and vibrato easier by reducing the downward angle of the strings over the bridge. Apparently this helps with reducing string breakages as well but since I never break strings anyway I can't really comment on that.

Oh ok so it would make it worse for down tuning and better
for standard as far as tension goes? I use d'adarrio 10-52 on a 24 3/4 inch scale guitar
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

Partly personal taste. In the early days of the Tun-o-matic the stop bars were left overs from when they were the bridge and were cast to be used that way only. Later they were cast to be used the other way only and now are cast so you can put the strings through either way. Like a lot of these sorts of things more down to what the company had laying around in the 50's than any logic.
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

Oh ok so it would make it worse for down tuning and better
for standard as far as tension goes? I use d'adarrio 10-52 on a 24 3/4 inch scale guitar

I use the same strings on the same scale.

It depends how far down you tune. I rarely go lower than C# and even that's just on occasion. 10s on a short scale will get kind of loose in that tuning anyway, regardless of what way your guitar is strung. Like Empty Pockets said, it really is a subtle difference. You have to be paying attention to notice it. Besides, some guitars just feel looser naturally anyway. Try it out, you might like it. If you don't then it's pretty simple to switch it back.

There's loads of good information in this thread started a while back about this subject: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=190196&highlight=top+wrapping

Pretty much everything you need to know. If you need the cliff notes then check the last paragraph of EPs post. He pretty much nailed it.
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

I use the same strings on the same scale.

It depends how far down you tune. I rarely go lower than C# and even that's just on occasion. 10s on a short scale will get kind of loose in that tuning anyway, regardless of what way your guitar is strung. Like Empty Pockets said, it really is a subtle difference. You have to be paying attention to notice it. Besides, some guitars just feel looser naturally anyway. Try it out, you might like it. If you don't then it's pretty simple to switch it back.

There's loads of good information in this thread started a while back about this subject: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=190196&highlight=top+wrapping

Pretty much everything you need to know. If you need the cliff notes then check the last paragraph of EPs post. He pretty much nailed it.



Thanks 4 the link man that helped alot I'm stickin with the traditional way.... Better for fast picking(more tension)!
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

Cool man, glad I could help.

Though since the very first Gibson electric bridges were meant to be top-wrapped....technically top-wrapping is the traditional way. ;)
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

I've tried top wrapping on my Gibson, Epiphone and Fender guitars with tune o matics. I didn't like it. To me, it was spongy and loose, and I don't want that in a guitar, I don't find the guitar hard to play strung up the "normal" way.
 
Re: Benefits of top loading a fixed bridge?

I top wrap some of my Les Pauls (actually most of them) I really notice the difference in feel when I am using heavy strings 12-52's, they have the same "slinky" feel as 9's or 10's that way.

On 9's or 10's I don't really notice any benefit to it.

Plus I've done it since around 1979 so it just looks "right" to me now.

The same effect can be achieved with adjusting the height of the tailpiece studs as well.
 
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