Best Mesa Amp?
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Best Mesa Amp?
Uh where be that nice little Sudio 22+ combo???
I had one and it was a great little amp.
Uh where be that nice little Sudio 22+ combo???
I had one and it was a great little amp.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Best Mesa Amp?
WHAAAAAT, No V-Twin?? :saeek: :chairshot :cussing: :rant: :soapbox: :angryfire
THey were also available in a rack version , with a "matching" 2:20 power amp, and that combo doesn´t sound much like most of the others, comes closest to a Mark 4 with a touch of Caliber....
GRRRRR...
WHAAAAAT, No V-Twin?? :saeek: :chairshot :cussing: :rant: :soapbox: :angryfire
THey were also available in a rack version , with a "matching" 2:20 power amp, and that combo doesn´t sound much like most of the others, comes closest to a Mark 4 with a touch of Caliber....
GRRRRR...
Re: Best Mesa Amp?
The V-Twin has great cleans...
Zerberus said:WHAAAAAT, No V-Twin?? :saeek: :chairshot :cussing: :rant: :soapbox: :angryfire
THey were also available in a rack version , with a "matching" 2:20 power amp, and that combo doesn´t sound much like most of the others, comes closest to a Mark 4 with a touch of Caliber....
GRRRRR...
The V-Twin has great cleans...
MDS
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Re: Best Mesa Amp?
I voted Mark, though I own a Dual Caliber. I love my DC. The rectifiers are kinda one trick ponies, so I'm not as big of a fan and the Single Rectifers I've played through lacked something, though I'm not sure what it is. The Mark IV is super hip and I'd love to get one someday. The Nomad is probably my second choice for current production models.
The bottom line with Mesa for me is the Graphic EQ. That is an awesome circuit and REALLY lets you tailor your tone. Maybe thats why I'm not as into the Rectifiers.
Mike
I voted Mark, though I own a Dual Caliber. I love my DC. The rectifiers are kinda one trick ponies, so I'm not as big of a fan and the Single Rectifers I've played through lacked something, though I'm not sure what it is. The Mark IV is super hip and I'd love to get one someday. The Nomad is probably my second choice for current production models.
The bottom line with Mesa for me is the Graphic EQ. That is an awesome circuit and REALLY lets you tailor your tone. Maybe thats why I'm not as into the Rectifiers.
Mike
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
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I haven't seen the insides of a Rectifier in a long time, and I'm not sure what is actually handwired on the new ones, but the first few years of Rectifiers
were built with more handwired components, meaning that the later ones
were easier to assemble for mass production. From what I've been told by
diehard Rectifier players, those early ones sounded fatter and less grainy.
I've always considered Mesa's decision to use a fixed bias and average quality
Sovtek tubes to be their biggest mistake. To my ears, most sound grainy and cold, but fat. I've heard a few Rectifiers that blew me away, tho.
Those one's were owned by guys who had a mini bias pot installed, and
High end tubes. You'd be amazed at the difference! If I owned a Dual Rec,
I wouldn't hesitate to get that mod done. If you own one, DON'T buy Mesa
tubes. I'd put Svetlana 6L6's and GT 12AX7C's or M's Chinese or Mullard.
Sovtek 12AX7A's don't sound nearly as good.
mrid said:
I haven't seen the insides of a Rectifier in a long time, and I'm not sure what is actually handwired on the new ones, but the first few years of Rectifiers
were built with more handwired components, meaning that the later ones
were easier to assemble for mass production. From what I've been told by
diehard Rectifier players, those early ones sounded fatter and less grainy.
I've always considered Mesa's decision to use a fixed bias and average quality
Sovtek tubes to be their biggest mistake. To my ears, most sound grainy and cold, but fat. I've heard a few Rectifiers that blew me away, tho.
Those one's were owned by guys who had a mini bias pot installed, and
High end tubes. You'd be amazed at the difference! If I owned a Dual Rec,
I wouldn't hesitate to get that mod done. If you own one, DON'T buy Mesa
tubes. I'd put Svetlana 6L6's and GT 12AX7C's or M's Chinese or Mullard.
Sovtek 12AX7A's don't sound nearly as good.
HardRockSinger
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Re: Best Mesa Amp?
could someone fill me in on why the mesa triple rectifier "sucked"?
I liked the effects loop feature, and they always sound ok at guitar center (although I can't crank em that loud w/o upsetting employees). I thought the 1st 2 godsmack albums sounded good.
I am not planning on buying one soon, although I would like to know just for general reference what is wrong (tone?). I have played with dual rectifier bandmates
... anyone know?
could someone fill me in on why the mesa triple rectifier "sucked"?
I liked the effects loop feature, and they always sound ok at guitar center (although I can't crank em that loud w/o upsetting employees). I thought the 1st 2 godsmack albums sounded good.
I am not planning on buying one soon, although I would like to know just for general reference what is wrong (tone?). I have played with dual rectifier bandmates
... anyone know?
Re: Best Mesa Amp?
i think people think the trip rect is a cliche sound...lots of lows, no mids. Also, it doesnt help that not only the sound is cliche, but the detuned playing style is. My blue angel is technically a dual rect, but it uses bot rects at the same time, so i am told.
i think people think the trip rect is a cliche sound...lots of lows, no mids. Also, it doesnt help that not only the sound is cliche, but the detuned playing style is. My blue angel is technically a dual rect, but it uses bot rects at the same time, so i am told.
Re: Best Mesa Amp?
Well I admit I did overexaggerate a bit there... but seriously I've never heard a brand new amp nail such a genuine, vintage, soulful tone like that. The only the amps' I've heard with a better clean tone were a Vintage Vibroverb with cream vinyl (not sure of the year, but it was definitely pre-CBS), and a '66 Deluxe Reverb with the original GE tubes and a well-broken-in Vintage 30 speaker. But in all seriousness this amp does beat most vintage Fenders.
the_Chris said:
Well I admit I did overexaggerate a bit there... but seriously I've never heard a brand new amp nail such a genuine, vintage, soulful tone like that. The only the amps' I've heard with a better clean tone were a Vintage Vibroverb with cream vinyl (not sure of the year, but it was definitely pre-CBS), and a '66 Deluxe Reverb with the original GE tubes and a well-broken-in Vintage 30 speaker. But in all seriousness this amp does beat most vintage Fenders.
HardRockSinger
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OK, thanks for the triple rectifier explanation
OK, thanks for the triple rectifier explanation
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
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Besides the cliche of it all with Rectifiers period, the Triple Rectifier lags in some other areas. Unfortunately, to really get it to open up, you have to crank it all the way, and if your signature is right HardRockSinger, you won't want to be within a mile of that amp when it does
The single and double just sound better at more reasonable levels. You realistically just don't need that kind of power and the Triple just won't sound good on anything lower than dangerous.
Besides the cliche of it all with Rectifiers period, the Triple Rectifier lags in some other areas. Unfortunately, to really get it to open up, you have to crank it all the way, and if your signature is right HardRockSinger, you won't want to be within a mile of that amp when it does
The single and double just sound better at more reasonable levels. You realistically just don't need that kind of power and the Triple just won't sound good on anything lower than dangerous.HardRockSinger
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of course, I wear earplugs (band practice is an environmental hazard, concerning hearing!!) ...I can hear my head voice when I sing, and don't really need the expensive earplugs =-)
I did not think about the extreme loudness though - this occurs even through a halfstack (not fullstack)?
Ive read a bunch of reviews that say the cleans are better with the triple rectifier rather than dual, and that the sound is more focused.
Glad to know that it is really bassy though (no treble) as I have not heard the triple rec at loud volumes, only semi-low volumes and on Godsmack cds. sounds pretty limiting if it is that bassy. thanks.
of course, I wear earplugs (band practice is an environmental hazard, concerning hearing!!) ...I can hear my head voice when I sing, and don't really need the expensive earplugs =-)
I did not think about the extreme loudness though - this occurs even through a halfstack (not fullstack)?
Ive read a bunch of reviews that say the cleans are better with the triple rectifier rather than dual, and that the sound is more focused.
Glad to know that it is really bassy though (no treble) as I have not heard the triple rec at loud volumes, only semi-low volumes and on Godsmack cds. sounds pretty limiting if it is that bassy. thanks.
