Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

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Sorry dude, but I'm very dubious about kempers next to playing a real amp.....

I was too, until I tried the Kemper. For recording, it's king! Live, I'm not shure yet. But it's not a feel thing per se, it's the physical experience of standing in front of a amp on 11.
 
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I just found out my tubes went microphonic. I'm not sure if this contributed to my dislike of the pickup in my amp, but i'm going to be changing to tubes before switching them to another guitar.
 
Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

I just found out my tubes went microphonic. I'm not sure if this contributed to my dislike of the pickup in my amp, but i'm going to be changing to tubes before switching them to another guitar.

Is that the waaaaaaay higher pitch squelch that comes out that is deafening???

I've had pickups feedback before (obviously) but I was in a rehearsal studio once and the whole freakin band I was auditioning for was just tooooooooo loud and I didn't have a noise gate and this unholy death screech was coming out of my amp that was completely different from regular feedback.

I've never experienced it again...even in that amp.
 
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I was too, until I tried the Kemper. For recording, it's king! Live, I'm not shure yet. But it's not a feel thing per se, it's the physical experience of standing in front of a amp on 11.

I don't doubt them for recording, hearing the Andy Sneap video it's 95% like the amp it profiles, and I know with the average joe they can't hear the difference. Live, tubes........
 
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Well, since I last posted in this thread, that next practice I talked about was postponed until last night due to our drummer's appendix. But yesterday he was chomping at the bit and wanted to play in spite of the residual pain from surgery. So we did.

So I finally got to play the JS King V with my Black Winter set through the Mesa in a band setting with the proper 500k pots and a .047uf cap. Wow! They sounded great! Better than they ever have so far, and I even noticed a more of a grind in my midrange tone. Something that wasn't there with the 250k pots and .22uf cap, or even when they were in my Explorer. And on top of that the low end of the Mesa seemed to be tighter too. Go figure. I'm beginning to think that these might just be the pickup for an alder body with a bolt on maple neck. The sound is so crisp, clear, and defined to the point that it almost makes a bolt on rival a neck through.
 
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Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Very interesting, I always thought a bolt-on is snappier and brighter vs. a similar neck-through construction.

My SL2H needs a punchy and edgy bridge pickup, and I thought the BW might be the one. I've tried a multitude of pickups there already, most Duncan high-output pickups incl. Blackouts, EMG's, BKP's etc. So far it's sporting a Distortion, which is just a bit too congested somehow. Where my ESP M-II loves the Distortion, the Soloist loses some of the edge. A Custom is better, but I kind of miss the Distortion power. So, if the BW provides the edge and the high mid scream, I gotta check it out. How would it compare to the EMG81, by the way?
 
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To my ears, the BW is brighter.

And in regards to neck through vs bolt on, of course you get a sharper attack with a bolt on, but when comparing my SL1 Soloist to my DK2 Dinkys (all of which have JBs in the bridge) the SL1 is brighter and has more clarity.

Also, after hearing the difference between 250k pots with a .022uf cap and 500k pots and a .047uf cap, I may just ditch my plan of running Distortions in my neck through and just run BWs and adjust the top end with cap and/or pot values.
 
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@Gone_Shootin

You mention an alder body with a bolt on neck....

Do you think The Winters would work well in a Strat??
 
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@Gone_Shootin

You mention an alder body with a bolt on neck....

Do you think The Winters would work well in a Strat??

I imagine it would. Sure a V body shape shape is going to sound different than a Strat, but I wouldn't hesitate if it were mine.

Is that the guitar with the JB in it?
 
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I imagine it would. Sure a V body shape shape is going to sound different than a Strat, but I wouldn't hesitate if it were mine.

Is that the guitar with the JB in it?


No sir, I have a JB in an Ibanez USA Custom. She's mahogany with a flame maple top and the JB has served me pretty well in that one.
 
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I imagine it would. Sure a V body shape shape is going to sound different than a Strat, but I wouldn't hesitate if it were mine.

Is that the guitar with the JB in it?


No sir, I have a JB in an Ibanez USA Custom. She's mahogany with a flame maple top and the JB has served me pretty well in that one.
 
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Ok, just wondering. I still haven't gotten around to that mag swap I'm wanting to do in one of my JBs. I keep getting distracted, lol. I'll get to it before too long, though.
 
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Passing on this review from the guitarist of Novembers of Doom:

Very happy to report that the Black Winter pups are excellent. Installed them into my Subsonic baritone and played through several different rigs (a Peavey 6505+ half-stack, a Line 6 Flextone half-stack, and my Marshall EL34 tube power amp and multi-FX processors into a Mustaine sig Marshall cab), to see how they would perform in fairly different setups. A lot of times when we travel (especially overseas) we wind up using rented backlines which differ from what my normal rig would be, so I was curious to see what I could expect. What I got was a tone that didn't drastically change from what I'd had before with my other Duncans, but added a bit more meat and edge, which is a welcome thing! Honestly I was quite happy with the tone I'd been getting before.....or at least I thought so until I heard what my guitar and rig sounds like now with the BW's, because I now have an added edginess to my tone that I hadn't realized I was really missing. As you know from having heard our material, while we go for the heavy low-tuned crunchy sound, at the same time we utilize a lot of odd chord shapes and melodies we move around within the chord patterns that require having a distinct clarity in our tone as well as chunk and distortion. The Black Winter pups definitely give me that, I am happy to say. One thing I personally dislike about pickups like, for example, active EMGs is that they give you heaviness and chunk, but I always feel like I'm losing that bite and clarity that I really need. On the opposite end of the spectrum, when I have used passive classic pups like 490/498s, they have great tone but they don't give me that beefy heaviness that I need from the low-tuned baritone. The Black Winter pups seem to fit right into that perfect middle ground, for lack of a better term, that I really need. I can see why these would work great for black metal bands and more progressive death metal bands, who also need that clarity and definition when picking out the melodies and all the little intricacies while simultaneously thrashing out the heavy bottom end riffs. These Black Winter's definitely seem to give me a good balanced tone, yet with teeth!

I was impressed that I didn't have to alter my amp settings too greatly, other than backing off the gain a bit due to the seemingly higher output. Honestly one of my concerns was that these pickups might be a bit too rough for my clean tone, because I know sometimes when I've tried using similar styled pups in the past I've found that they break up my clean sound in a way I didn't care much for. VERY happy to report that wasn't the case this time! Rather than causing any unwanted distortion in my clean sound, I had a bit more of a brighter midrange-to-high happening, and the neck pickup really sounded great on the clean channel, especially through the Peavey and Marshall rigs. Seemingly unlike many guys in brutal bands, I tend to use my neck pickup a lot, or set the guitar in the middle position between the two humbuckers, for a lot of my rhythm playing. These pickups somewhat surprisingly worked very well for that, because I still got that percussive smooth tone I like but also with an added bit of edge that I was lacking before that definitely helped me cut through everything with more clarity.

I'm trying to think of any kind of constructive criticism I can offer on these..........honestly so far I cannot, haha. Maybe after a bit more time I might start being able to nitpick a bit more thoroughly, but as for right now I'm very much enjoying these pups in my arsenal. Can't thank you enough for setting me up with these, I really hope they catch on because I think they'll really appeal to a lot of players out there if they give 'em a chance. Oh and I definitely think these don't have to just appeal to guys who play extreme metal, they've definitely got a diverse enough tonal personality that could be used for guys playing everything from NWOBHM old school stuff to even guys who want to play mainstream rock looking for some different tonal possibilities. I have a feeling these would be amazing in one of my old Explorers, that's going to be my next task!
 
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None of these reviews say anything we haven't already covered here.

The Winters are A M A Z I N G.
 
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